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JON O. NEWMAN, Circuit Judge: In 1941, the Government settled its antitrust suit against the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (AS-CAP) with the entry of a consent decree. As amended in 1950, the consent decree requires ASCAP to offer users of music a so-called “blanket license,” the non-exclusive right to perform any music in the ASCAP repertory. The amended consent decree also provides that in the event of a dispute concerning the amount of a fee for the blanket license, the District Court for the Southern District of New York is authorized to determine a reasonable fee. This appeal is the first to challenge a fee determination for a blanket license under the ASCAP consent decree. ASCAP appeals from the October 12, 1989, order of the District Court for the Southern District of New York (Michael H. Dolinger, Magistrate) determining the fee to be paid by the applicant-appellee Showtime/The Movie Channel, Inc. (SMC). Magistrate Dolinger, sitting by consent pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 636(c) (1988), set the fee for the period April 4, 1984, through December 31, 1988, at 15 cents per subscriber, rejecting ASCAP’s request for a fee of 25 cents per subscriber. For substantially the reasons set forth in the Magistrate’s comprehensive opinion, reprinted in the appendix to this opinion, we affirm. Facts The background of the blanket license for the right to perform copyrighted music has been set forth in several opinions considering antitrust challenges to its validity. See Broadcast Music, Inc. v. Columbia Broadcasting System, Inc., 441 U.S. 1, 99 S.Ct. 1551, 60 L.Ed.2d 1 (1979); Buffalo Broadcasting Co. v. ASCAP, 744 F.2d 917 (2d Cir.1984), cert. denied, 469 U.S. 1211, 105 S.Ct. 1181, 84 L.Ed.2d 329 (1985); Columbia Broadcasting System, Inc. v. ASCAP, 620 F.2d 930 (2d Cir.1980), cert. denied, 450 U.S. 970, 101 S.Ct. 1491, 67 L.Ed.2d 621 (1981). As required by the ASCAP consent decree, ASCAP offers a blanket license for all of the three million songs in its repertory. A substantially similar blanket license is offered by Broadcast Music, Inc. (BMI), the other major organization holding rights to copyrighted music. The BMI repertory includes one million songs. SMC, the applicant in the pending matter, operates two pay cable television network services, “Showtime” and “The Movie Channel.” SMC charges the operators of local cable systems a fee for the right to carry its programming, which consists primarily of movies. Since the films contain copyrighted music, SMC must obtain performance rights for the music on the soundtracks of the films it makes available on its cable channels. Like most users of copyrighted music, SMC finds the blanket license to be the most convenient way to obtain the rights it requires. Prior licenses. SMC’s predecessor entities held blanket licenses from ASCAP for the years 1977 through 1979. In these early years of the cable industry, the parties agreed to nominal license fees and stipulated that the licenses were entered into on an “experimental” basis and would not be “prejudicial to any position taken by either of the parties” in the future. The owners of Showtime held a blanket license from BMI for the years 1978-1980, also at nominal fees. More pertinent to the pending controversy are the licenses in effect in the 1980’s. For the period July 1, 1983, through December 31, 1986, SMC obtained a BMI blanket license at a cost of $3.75 million and for the years 1987-1989 at an estimated cost of $2.6 million. For the earlier period, the fee amounted to about 13 cents per subscriber per year, and for the latter period about 12 cents per subscriber per year. For the years 1986-1989, Home Box Office (HBO), another pay cable service, held a BMI blanket license at a cost set at 12 cents per subscriber per year. For the years 1980-1982, HBO held an ASCAP blanket license at a cost of $6 million and for the years 1983-1985 at a cost of $13 million. Though these fees were set as fixed dollar sums, they amounted to approximately 25 cents per subscriber per year. In December 1985 HBO offered to extend its ASCAP license through 1988 for a fee of 24.1 cents per subscriber per year. For the years 1983-1985, the Disney Channel, another pay cable service, held an ASCAP blanket license at a cost of $875,-000; this cost amounted to 21 cents per subscriber per year, based on Disney’s total year-end subscribers during the period, and 29 cents per subscriber per year, based on the average number of subscribers during the period. During the years pertinent to this controversy, SMC, HBO, and Disney were the major pay cable services. In 1986, these three services accounted for more than 30 million subscribers, out of a nationwide total of just under 32 million subscribers to all pay cable services. The pending license application. On April 4, 1984, SMC requested from ASCAP a blanket license from that date through 1986. When the parties were unable to agree upon a license fee, SMC, exercising its rights under the Consent Decree, initiated the instant proceeding by asking the District Court to set a “reasonable fee” for the license. Consent Decree, ¶ IX(A). The parties later agreed to extend the fee-setting application to cover the period through 1988. The fee application was heard by Magistrate Dolinger by agreement, 28 U.S.C. § 636(c). The Magistrate conducted a seven-day trial in 1988. ASCAP contended that a reasonable annual fee for SMC would be 25 cents per subscriber. ASCAP relied on the fees paid by HBO during the years 1980-1985 for an ASCAP blanket license, which were approximately 25 cents per subscriber, and those paid by Disney during the years 1983-1985, which were either 21 or 29 cents per subscriber per year, depending on whether year-end or average subscriber totals are used. ASCAP also relied on HBO’s 1985 offer to extend its then existing license at an annual fee of 24.1 cents per subscriber. SMC contended that the fees paid to AS-CAP by HBO and Disney should not provide the basis for a “reasonable fee” to be set for SMC because the HBO and Disney fees reflect ASCAP’s monopoly power and are much higher than prices that would obtain in a freely competitive market for copyrighted music rights. Instead, SMC urged the Court to estimate the economic value of the music used by SMC in its programming by analyzing the costs of acquiring other creative components such as script writing and film directing. Using this approach, SMC contended that a reasonable annual fee for the ASCAP blanket license would be 8 cents per subscriber. The District Court’s decision. The District Court accepted half of SMC’s position, agreeing with SMC that the HBO and Disney fees for ASCAP licenses were not suitable bases for determining a “reasonable” fee for SMC. The Magistrate pointed out that the HBO license for 1980-82 was specified to be “experimental” in nature. He then observed that HBO’s 1983-85 license contained a “most favored nation” clause, entitling HBO to a retroactive reduction of its fee to whatever fee might be agreed upon between ASCAP and any pay television service with at least one million subscribers, such as SMC. In the Magistrate’s view, if the HBO negotiated fee were to be used as a benchmark for SMC’s fee, it would have to be discounted by some value attributable to the benefit of this clause, a reduction that he concluded would be entirely speculative on the record before him. The Magistrate also rejected the rate of 25 cents per subscriber per year derived from the HBO fees for 1983-85 because HBO had agreed to a flat dollar amount and had done so based on projections of larger numbers of subscribers than it obtained. He pointed out that with the high subscriber projections at hand, it was doubtful that HBO would have agreed in 1983 to pay at a rate that turned out to be 25 cents per subscriber, based on the actual number of subscribers. He also found unpersuasive the rate of 24.1 cents per subscriber offered by HBO in 1985 to extend its license because this offer included the “most favored nation” clause from the 1983-85 license and therefore was not an unconditional offer to pay that rate. The Magistrate also rejected the Disney license rate as an appropriate benchmark because this rate was agreed to at an early stage of the Disney Channel’s existence and reflected considerations not pertinent to arm’s length bargaining between AS-CAP and an established cable service like SMC. Overshadowing these specific grounds for rejecting the pertinence of the HBO and Disney license rates, however, was the Magistrate’s basic conclusion that AS-CAP’s bargaining power in negotiating rates for its blanket license was unduly enhanced by the absence of a truly competitive market for copyrighted music or, at a minimum, that the licensees’ perception of ASCAP’s undue market power prompted them to pay fees higher than those that would obtain in a more competitive market. In support of his view concerning the actuality and the perception of ASCAP’s enhanced market power, the Magistrate relied on several factors. These included the necessity of obtaining music rights in order to offer local cable systems films containing copyrighted music; the difficulties SMC would likely encounter in obtaining music rights by alternatives to the blanket licénse such as per-program licenses (a license from ASCAP to use all of the music in the ASCAP repertory that is needed for performance of a single program); direct licensing (a license from the composer or other copyright proprietor of each song to be performed), or source licensing (a license from the producer of a program for the music contained in that program); and the aversion of those needing music licenses to invoke the heretofore unused rate-setting authority of the District Court. The Magistrate also placed considerable reliance on the fact that the BMI blanket license, which commanded prices only slightly below those for the ASCAP blanket license in other segments of the entertainment industry, was obtained by SMC and HBO at prices between 12 and 13 cents per subscriber, far below ASCAP's claimed price of 25 cents. Having concluded that ASCAP had not sustained its burden of proving that its claimed price was reasonable, the Magistrate turned to the task of setting a reasonable fee. He rejected SMC’s suggested price of 8 cents per subscriber, and instead determined that a reasonable price would be 15 cents per subscriber. The Magistrate started his calculation by using the price of approximately 12 cents per subscriber paid by SMC and HBO for the BMI blanket license. He rejected SMC’s objection that the price for the BMI blanket license reflected a degree of undue market power similar to that of ASCAP, doubting that BMI “has or chooses to exert the type of leverage that SMC attributes to it.” Appendix, infra, at 595. The Magistrate then adjusted the BMI rate upward by a factor reflecting the 55-45 ratio that ASCAP and BMI had agreed to use in splitting the amount determined by the Copyright Tribunal to be payable to both organizations out of the royalties for compulsory licenses paid by cable system operators for program retransmissions. See 17 U.S.C. § 111(d) (1988). Though recognizing that the ASCAP repertory contains three times as many songs as the BMI repertory, he concluded that the value of the ASCAP license only slightly exceeded that of the BMI license and that the difference was best reflected by the agreement between ASCAP and BMI respecting the Copyright Tribunal payments. He specifically declined to credit ASCAP’s claim that programs carried on SMC channels use twice as much ASCAP music as BMI music. Based on the adjusted BMI rate, the Magistrate set a fee of 15 cents per subscriber for the ASCAP blanket license. Discussion On appeal ASCAP contends that the Magistrate erred in not setting a fee at 25 cents per subscriber. In ASCAP’s view, the Magistrate was required to consider as the most relevant comparable transactions the ASCAP blanket licenses to HBO and Disney for 1983-85, and erred in rejecting the pertinence of these transactions in favor of the BMI blanket licenses to HBO and SMC. ASCAP also contends that even if the BMI blanket licenses are pertinent, the Magistrate erred in not making a higher adjustment for ASCAP from the BMI license fee. SMC, not pressing its trial court claim of a fee of 8 cents per subscriber, is content to defend the Magistrate’s fee of 15 cents per subscriber. The parties also differ in their approach to the appropriate standard of review. AS-CAP declines to specify a standard of review, simply contending that the Magistrate has erred in rejecting the 25 cent rate, in rejecting the pertinence of the AS-CAP licenses to HBO and Disney, in relying on the BMI licenses to HBO and SMC, and in calculating the adjustment to the BMI license rate. SMC contends that each of these aspects of the Magistrate’s decision is a finding of fact, subject to review under the “clearly erroneous” standard. Neither side’s approach to the standard of review is satisfactory. Fair market value is a factual matter, albeit a hypothetical one. It is the price that a willing buyer and a willing seller would agree to in an arm’s length transaction. That the value to be determined is hypothetical does not render it any the less a matter of fact, for purposes of the standard of review. Fact-finders frequently are obliged to determine as a matter of fact hypothetical values pertinent to damage calculations. See, e.g., Bigelow v. RKO Radio Pictures, Inc., 327 U.S. 251, 66 S.Ct. 574, 90 L.Ed. 652 (1946) (lost profits); Story Parchment Co. v. Paterson Parchment Paper Co., 282 U.S. 555, 51 S.Ct. 248, 75 L.Ed. 544 (1931) (same). But the factual component of the issue before the Magistrate does not render all aspects of his decision-making subject to review under the “clearly erroneous” standard. In making a factual determination, a decision-maker might rely on legally impermissible factors, fail to give consideration to legally relevant factors, apply incorrect legal standards, or misapply correct legal standards. In jury trials, such matters are normally resolved by rulings on admissibility of evidence and by jury instructions. In court trials, where the functions of fact-finding and exposition of law are performed by the same person, the line between the functions is not always distinct. For example, the line between admissibility of evidence (law) and evaluation of the persuasive force of evidence (fact) is often blurred. Nevertheless, an appellate court is obliged to observe the law/fact distinction as best it can and accord plenary review to any aspect of a trial court’s decision that can fairly be isolated as determining an issue of law. With that principle in mind, we consider the various steps in the Magistrate’s decision-making process in this case. The Magistrate’s first step, and the one most vigorously challenged by AS-CAP, was the refusal to regard the HBO and Disney blanket licenses from ASCAP as the most pertinent transactions for determining a reasonable fee for an ASCAP blanket license to SMC. Recognizing the general utility of comparable sales in determining the fair value of property, the Magistrate concluded that HBO had paid a price higher than fair value because of ASCAP’s undue market power in the field of licensing music rights, i.e., a price higher than would have obtained if there existed a freely competitive market for music rights or at least a market more competitive than the one currently functioning. There, are factual and legal components to that conclusion. Whether a market is freely competitive and, if not, whether a particular seller enjoys more market power than would obtain in a freely competitive market are matters of fact, albeit not as easy to ascertain nor as free from dispute as amounts of gross sales or net profits. Like many matters of fact, the competitiveness of a market and the market power of a seller may be ascertained with the aid of expert opinions, whose persuasive force is itself a factual matter within the purview of the fact-finder. On the other hand, whether the price paid by a buyer may be given less weight as a “comparable sale” either because the price was higher than would have obtained in a more competitive market or was perceived by the buyer to be higher is a matter of law. In a jury trial, this question would have arisen as an objection to evidence of the competitive nature of the market and the buyer’s perception of the market. The Magistrate’s view that the market for licensing music rights is not freely competitive finds support in the evidence. Though SMC’s expert economist may have indulged in some hyperbole in stating that ASCAP operates in “as close to a perfect monopolistic market that I have ever seen,” his view, even if discounted, was entitled to be relied upon. The evidence disclosed that in the licensing of music rights, songs do not compete against each other on the basis of price. Though it is theoretically possible for a licensee to obtain music rights to particular songs by negotiating with the composer or the producer of a film, the record is clear that this is not occurring, that cable channels need access to the AS-CAP and BMI repertories to supply films to cable systems, and that the blanket license is the existing method for obtaining the needed rights. The Magistrate was entitled to find that the market is less competitive than it would be if direct or source licensing were regularly used or if music rights were scattered among numerous performing rights societies with users free to secure only those licenses needed to distribute particular films. And he was entitled to find that ASCAP’s dominant position in the music licensing field gives it considerable market power. ASCAP contends that the findings about the market and ASCAP’s market power cannot stand (are clearly erroneous) in light of this Court’s decisions in the CBS and Buffalo Broadcasting cases. We there ruled that antitrust plaintiffs had not sustained their burden of proving that the blanket license functioned to restrain trade, a burden they were obliged to discharge in order to impose treble damage liability upon ASCAP for an alleged violation of section 1 of the Sherman Act, 15 U.S.C. § 1 (1988). But the failure of those antitrust plaintiffs to prove an antitrust violation does not mean that the Magistrate lacked evidence sufficient to support a finding that ASCAP enjoys more market power than it would have in a freely competitive market for music rights. Nor did the Magistrate commit legal error in regarding ASCAP’s market power as a relevant consideration in diminishing the weight of the ASCAP licenses to HBO and Disney as comparable sales. The rate court was established as a component of the settlement of the Government’s antitrust challenge to ASCAP’s licensing practices. Though the rate court’s existence does not mean that ASCAP has violated the antitrust law, the court need not conduct itself without regard to the context in which it was created. The opportunity of users of music rights to resort to the rate court whenever they apprehend that AS-CAP’s market power may subject them to unreasonably high fees would have little meaning if that court were obliged to set a “reasonable” fee solely or even primarily on the basis of the fees ASCAP had successfully obtained from other users. The Ninth Circuit has observed that “as a potential combination in restraint of trade, ASCAP has been ‘disinfected’ by the [consent] decree.” K-91, Inc. v. Gershwin Publishing Corp., 372 F.2d 1, 4 (9th Cir.1967), cert. denied, 389 U.S. 1045, 88 S.Ct. 761, 19 L.Ed.2d 838 (1968). The disinfectant need not be a placebo. It is a slightly closer question whether the Magistrate properly relied on HBO’s perception that ASCAP enjoyed undue market power in agreeing to the rate for HBO’s license. As ASCAP points out, courts do not permit psychoanalysis of buyers in comparable transactions to explore the complex mental processes that affected their decision finally to agree on a price. Yet we are not so sure that buyer motivation is never relevant to the weight of what is alleged to be a comparable sale. Suppose, for example, that in valuing a tract of land the selling prices of five lots of similar size and location were presented, one of which was significantly higher than the average of the other four. We are not prepared to say that it would not be relevant to show that the buyer of the fifth lot mistakenly believed that there was oil under that lot. However that may be, it was not error for the Magistrate to receive and weigh evidence that HBO thought it was paying a high price for the blanket license but was willing to do so because it felt it had no choice. Ultimately, the Magistrate weighed all of the evidence and found, as a matter of fact, that ASCAP had not sustained its burden of proving that its price of 25 cents per subscriber was reasonable. No legal error contributed to that finding, and the finding itself, adequately supported by the record, is not clearly erroneous. Having determined that ASCAP’s price was not reasonable, the Magistrate was then obliged to determine a price that was reasonable. ASCAP faults this phase of the decision in two respects, first, the use of the BMI license to SMC as a starting point for the determination, and, second, the degree of adjustment from the price of the BMI license. In determining that the BMI license to SMC was sufficiently comparable to provide guidance toward a reasonable rate for an ASCAP license, the Magistrate was making factual findings and, in effect, a legal conclusion. The circumstances concerning the BMI license, e.g., the number of songs in the BMI repertory, the extent to which SMC uses BMI music, and the amount of dollars paid for the BMI license, were matters of fact. Only the relative use of BMI music compared to ASCAP music was in dispute. ASCAP contended that SMC uses twice as much ASCAP music as BMI music. This claim was based on ASCAP data purporting to count “needle-drops,” instances where music in the AS-CAP reportory is played on an SMC program, regardless of the duration of each “play.” The Magistrate found that AS-CAP’s data on this point was “subject to methodological question,” Appendix, infra, at 596 n. 49, surely a matter for factual assessment. It was also a factual matter for the Magistrate to deem more pertinent the fact that SMC needs both the ASCAP and the BMI blanket licenses and that BMI “provides a service comparable to that of ASCAP.” Appendix, infra, at 594. All of the factual findings relating to the comparability of the ASCAP and BMI licenses have adequate support in the record. Based on these factual determinations, the Magistrate, in effect, drew the legal conclusion that SMC’s BMI license was a “comparable” license, a determination analogous to an evidentiary ruling that would have occurred if the price of the BMI license had been offered at a jury trial. The factors bearing on the comparability of the BMI license placed it well within the degree of latitude enjoyed by a trial judge in ruling on the admissibility of such evidence. The Magistrate’s final step, adjusting the BMI price by the 55-45 ratio ASCAP had negotiated with BMI for allocation of cable retransmission royalties awarded by the Copyright Tribunal, was a factual determination fully supported by the record. The appropriateness of the 55-45 ratio was confirmed by the similar ratios of rates for ASCAP and BMI licenses in other segments of the broadcasting industry. Magistrate Dolinger performed the rate-setting task conscientiously, thoroughly, and fairly. The judgment of the District Court is affirmed. APPENDIX United States District Court, Southern District of New York. United States of America, Plaintiff, v. American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers, Defendants. In The Matter of the Application of Showtime/The Movie Channel, Inc., Applicant. For A License for Its Pay Television Services. Civ. 13-95 (WCC) MICHAEL H. DOLINGER, UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE: ORDER Since applicant Showtime/The Movie Channel, Inc. has withdrawn its request for determination of a per-program license fee for the period April 4,1984 through December 31, 1988 (see Stipulation and Order dated December 18, 1989), this proceeding is deemed to have been completed in accordance with the terms specified in this Court’s Memorandum and Order dated October 12, 1989 at pages 1 to 69 and 72 to 73. DATED: New York, New York December 20, 1989 SO ORDERED. /s/ Michael H. Dolinger MICHAEL H. DOLINGER UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE Copies of the foregoing Order have been transmitted this date to: Allan Blumstein, David E. Nachman, Paul, Weiss, Rif kind, Wharton & Garrison, New York City, for American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers. R. Bruce Rich, Kenneth L. Steinthal, Evie C. Goldstein, Weil, Gotshal & Manges, New York City, for Showtime/The Movie Channel, Inc. United States District Court, Southern District of New York. United States of America, Plaintiff, v. American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers, Defendants. In the Matter of the Application of Showtime/The Movie Channel, Inc., Applicant. For A License for Its Pay Television Services. Civ. 13-95 (WCC) Originally filed under Seal on Oct. 12, 1989. Subsequently unsealed when it went up on appeal. MICHAEL H. DOLINGER, UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE: MEMORANDUM AND ORDER Showtime/The Movie Channel, Inc. (“SMC”) has applied to this Court pursuant to Article IX(A) of the Amended Consent Decree for an order setting a reasonable fee for a “blanket” license from the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (“ASCAP”) for the period from April 4, 1984 through December 31, 1988. SMC also seeks an order declaring that it is entitled to a so-called “per program” license from ASCAP under Article VII(B) of the Decree. For the reasons that follow, the fee for the blanket license for the period in question is set at $0.15 per subscriber. With respect to the per-program license question, since ASCAP has represented that it is willing to negotiate a fee for such a license, there is no current controversy that requires resolution of the meaning of the Decree. Accordingly, the parties are to attempt for a period of twenty-one (21) days to resolve by negotiation the amount of any such fee, at which time SMC may return to the Court under Article IX(A). A. Background As noted in prior decisions in this proceeding, the jurisdiction of this so-called “rate” court is an artifact of a consent decree negotiated between the United States Department of Justice and ASCAP to settle an antitrust lawsuit commenced by the Government to challenge various practices of ASCAP in the licensing of the copyrighted music of ASCAP’s members. As amended in 1950, the decree requires ASCAP to make available on request a license for the public performance of its music. (Consent Decree, Article V.) In addition to the traditional blanket license— which makes the entire ASCAP repertory available for unlimited use during the license period, in exchange for a specified payment — the decree requires ASCAP to offer to “radio and television broadcasters” a so-called “per program license,” which exacts a fee for each designated program. (Article VII(B).) The Consent Decree further provides that the parties are to attempt, in the first instance, to negotiate a mutually acceptable fee for the license and, failing that, either party may, after sixty days, apply to this Court to set a “reasonable fee.” (Article IX(A).) The Decree does not attempt to define the term “reasonable fee” and thus apparently leaves to the Court broad discretion to fashion an appropriate methodology for deriving such a rate. Article IX(B) of the Decree also permits the Court to set an interim fee upon application by either party. That fee is to govern during the period when the parties either negotiate a final fee or litigate its terms before the rate court. The interim fee, however, is subject to retroactive modification to conform to the final fee that is either agreed to or imposed by court order. In this case, SMC served on ASCAP on April 4, 1984 a request for a license for both the preceding period from April 4, 1981 to April 3, 1984 and for the period from April 4, 1984 forward to December 31, 1986. When negotiations failed SMC filed an application with the Court seeking a determination of fees for the same time period. By Memorandum and Order dated July 8, 1986, the Court dismissed SMC’s application insofar as it sought relief for the three-year period prior to April 4, 1984 since the Consent Decree did not authorize such retroactive fee setting. Subsequently the parties agreed to modify SMC’s fee application to encompass an additional two-year period, ending December 31, 1988. (See Joint Pre-trial Statement (“JPS”) at II 3, n. 2.) During the pendency of this proceeding, ASCAP applied for the award of interim fees. By Memorandum and Order dated October 15, 1984, the Court ordered that SMC commence paying provisional fees in the amount of $90,000.00 per month. Thereafter, based upon a fuller written record, the Court ordered SMC to pay interim fees for a blanket license in the same amount. (See Memorandum and Order dated January 14, 1985.) That interim fee has been in place since January 14, 1985. Finally, since the parties’ episodic efforts at settlement proved unavailing, the Court conducted a seven-day trial in January 1988. Post-trial briefing followed in March 1988. B. The Parties and their Relationship ASCAP is an unincorporated membership association consisting of approximately 40,-000 composers and music publishers, who rely upon it to license the performing rights in their copyrighted musical compositions. (JPS at If 2.) ASCAP serves as both the licensing agent and the collector and distributor of royalties for licensed performances. Its repertory includes more than three million compositions. See Buf falo Broadcasting Co. v. ASCAP, 744 F.2d 917, 920 (2d Cir.1984), cert. denied, 469 U.S. 1211 [105 S.Ct. 1181, 84 L.Ed.2d 329] (1985). SMC is in the business of acquiring, producing, marketing and transmitting programs through pay-cable television channels. It operates principally two pay cable services, known as Showtime and The Movie Channel. (JPS at H 1.) For the most part, the programs of SMC consist of made-for-theatre movies; a smaller portion consist of general entertainment programs. (JPS at ¶¶ 11-12.) The programs acquired or produced by SMC are transmitted to viewers through cable television system operators, who charge willing subscribers a monthly fee for access to each of the SMC services, and pass along a portion of that fee to SMC. (JPS at ¶¶ 1, 7.) SMC and its predecessor entities have a very limited history of fee negotiations and agreements with ASCAP. In 1979 both Showtime and The Star Channel — the predecessors of SMC — entered into licensing agreements with ASCAP for the period from January 1, 1977 through December 31, 1979. (See Memorandum and Order Dated January 14, 1985, at 5; JPS at HU 26, 27.) Under the Showtime agreement, no fee was payable for 1977, and for the next two years Showtime was to pay $12,500.00 and $52,500.00 respectively. (Id.) The agreement for Star Channel provided for no payment for 1977, and payments of $6,000.00 and $9,000.00 for 1978 and 1979. (Id.) Both agreements contained an identical provision specifying that they were being entered into on an experimental and non-prejudicial basis, shall apply for the term of this agreement only, and shall not be binding upon or prejudicial to any position taken by either of the parties for any period subsequent to the termination of the agreement. (Joint Exhs. 2 & 3 at II 1(c).) For the period from 1980 to April 1984, neither SMC nor its predecessors held any ASCAP license. See David v. Showtime/The Movie Channel, 697 F.Supp. 752, 754 (S.D.N.Y.1988); Deposition of Benson Begun at 9-15; Deposition of Michael Gerber at 23-24. This state of affairs apparently resulted from an initial inability to reach agreement and then an abortive effort by ASCAP to seek royalty payments directly from the cable system operators rather than from the pay cable programming services. See Gerber Dep. at 32-38; David v. Showtime/The Movie Channel, supra, 697 F.Supp. at 754. When this attempt was abandoned and the parties were again unable to reach agreement, SMC formally requested a license from ASCAP on April 4, 1984. C. The Positions of the Parties In valuing the blanket license under which SMC now operates, the parties have offered strikingly different approaches. ASCAP urges that a “reasonable” fee is best judged by a comparison with fees agreed to either between the same parties or between comparably situated parties if the agreements were reached in “arms length” negotiations. Since the parties in this proceeding have no meaningful record of prior dealings — the early “experimental” rates having eoncededly reflected the nascent status of Showtime and the Star Channel in the late 1970’s — ASCAP would have the Court look to its course of dealings with SMC’s principal current competitor in the pay cable television market, Home Box Office, Inc. (“HBO”). Citing its agreements with HBO for the 1980-to-1982 period and its subsequent agreement with HBO for 1983 to 1985, ASCAP argues that those deals involved annual payments that ultimately approximated $0.25 per HBO subscriber. ASCAP also invokes the fact that on December 17, 1985 HBO offered, in effect, to extend its prior agreement on the basis of an annual payment representing $0.24.1 per subscriber. According to AS-CAP, the willingness of HBO to accept these fee levels in “arms length” negotiations should govern here since HBO is comparable to SMC in its market position and its use of music on its programming. Indeed, HBO not only offers programming very similar to that of SMC, but is its principal competitor. Based on these comparisons, ASCAP seeks a fee of $0.25 per subscriber. In further support of this position ASCAP cites its license agreement with the Disney Channel for the period from April 18, 1983 through the end of 1985. Although this agreement, like the HBO contracts, called for lump sum payments, ASCAP calculates that, based on Disney’s subscriber levels, those fees in effect amounted to payments of between $0.21 and $0.29 per subscriber. SMC frontally attacks the proposed reliance on any prior ASCAP agreements principally because, in its view, ASCAP is a classical monopolist and is thus able to extract prices well above the levels that would be set in a freely competitive market. In place of the HBO and Disney analogies, SMC offers a mode of analysis that attempts to assign an economic value to the music used by SMC in its programming. To do this SMC looks to the cost of acquiring other creative elements of such programming, specifically scriptwriting and directorial services. Based on this approach, SMC suggests that a generous valuation of the benefits that it receives under the ASCAP blanket license would permit an award of no more than $0.08 per subscriber. With respect to the per-program license question, ASCAP argues that because SMC is a cable program supplier, it is not entitled to a per-program license under the terms of Article VII(B) of the Consent Decree. It also argues that SMC should not be permitted at this stage to press for such a license because it has never manifested any interest in obtaining one. Predictably, SMC disagrees with both of these contentions and seeks an order directing ASCAP to make such a license available. ANALYSIS I. The Blanket License Question A. General Standards The Consent Decree provides very limited guidance as to the criteria by which royalty fees are to be established. Indeed, it refers only to the setting of a “reasonable fee,” without further defining the term. As a general matter consent decrees are to be read in accordance with their “plain meaning” or “explicit language.” See, e.g., United States v. Atlantic Refining Co., 360 U.S. 19, 22-23 [79 S.Ct. 944, 946, 3 L.Ed.2d 1054] (1959); Berger v. Heckler, 111 F.2d 1556, 1568 (2d Cir.1985); Artvale, Inc. v. Rugby Fabrics Corp., 303 F.2d 283, 284 (2d Cir.1962) {per curiam); cf. Schurr v. Austin Galleries of Illinois, Inc., 719 F.2d 571, 577 (2d Cir.1983) (Van Graafei-land, J., concurring). This emphasis on interpreting the decree within its “four corners” is based on the notion that the decree “represents a compromise between parties who have waived their right to litigation and, in the interest of avoiding the risk and expense of suit, have ‘give[n] up something they might have won had they proceeded with the litigation Berger v. Heckler, supra, 771 F.2d at 1568 (quoting United States v. Armour & Co., 402 U.S. 673, 681 [91 S.Ct. 1752, 1757, 29 L.Ed.2d 256] (1971)). Accordingly, we are cautioned, “the scope of the consent decree must be discerned within its four corners, and not by reference to what might satisfy the purposes of one of the parties to it.” Firefighters Local Union No. 1784 v. Stotts, 467 U.S. 561, 574 [104 S.Ct. 2576, 2585, 81 L.Ed.2d 483] (1984); SEC v. Levine, Dkt. Nos. 88-6294, 6296, 6298, 6300, 6302, 6304, slip op. 4887, 4916-17 [881 F.2d 1165, 1178-79] (2d Cir. Aug. 2, 1989); Berger v. Heckler, supra, 771 F.2d at 1568. Nonetheless, as .is the case with contracts, if the terms of a decree are not self-explanatory, the court may look to contextual indicia of meaning. See, e.g., United States v. ITT Continental Baking Co., 420 U.S. 223, 238 [95 S.Ct. 926, 935, 43 L.Ed.2d 148] (1975); SEC v. Levine, supra, slip op. at 4917 [at 1179] (citing Schurr v. Austin Galleries of Illinois, Inc., supra, 719 F.2d at 575). See also United States v. American Cyanamid Co., 719 F.2d 558, 564 (2d Cir.1983). That is surely necessary here, since the key term “reasonable fee” is not defined and does not have an explicitly accepted meaning. In prior interim fee decisions in this and related proceedings, this Court has indicated that the appropriate analysis ordinarily seeks to define a rate or range of rates that approximates the rates that would be set in a competitive market. See, e.g., In re Buffalo Broadcasting Co., Memorandum & Order at 9-11 (S.D.N.Y. Feb. 17, 1987). This conclusion is based in large measure on the perception that the rate-setting mechanism defined by the decree was designed to address potential pricing problems in a market that is concededly not freely competitive. See, e.g., U.S. v. ASCAP, 586 F.Supp. 727, 728, 730 (S.D.N.Y.1984); Deposition of Dr. Paul Fagan at 35; Tr. 114-15; Sobel, supra, 3 Loyola Ent.L.J. at 33-34. See also Cirace, “CBS v. ASCAP: An Economic Analysis of a Political Problem”, 47 Ford.L.Rev. 277, 303-04 (1978); Finkelstein, supra, 19 Law & Contemp.Probs. at 288. Indeed, the courts have repeatedly acknowledged that the rate court not only functions as an alternative source of pricing for public performance licenses in the event that the would-be licensee and ASCAP are unable to reach agreement in direct negotiations, see, e.g., K-91, Inc. v. Gershwin Pub. Corp., 372 F.2d 1, 4 (9th Cir.1967), cert. denied, 389 U.S. 1045 [88 S.Ct. 761, 19 L.Ed.2d 838] (1968), but also serves to minimize the likelihood that ASCAP’s evident market leverage may be exerted to obtain unacceptably inflated price levels for its licenses. See, e.g., Broadcast Music, Inc. v. Columbia Broadcasting System, Inc., 441 U.S. 1, 24 [99 S.Ct. 1551, 1564, 60 L.Ed.2d 1] (1979); Buffalo Broadcasting Co. v. ASCAP, 744 F.2d 917, 923 (2d Cir.1984), cert. denied, 469 U.S. 1211 [105 S.Ct. 1181, 84 L.Ed.2d 329] (1985). Notwithstanding the primacy of these concerns, it is appropriate to note certain caveats with respect to the specific application of this general policy. These indicate that restraining ASCAP’s pricing is not necessarily the only relevant consideration and that even that goal does not dictate a search for the perfectly competitive market price. As a general matter a consent decree may fairly be interpreted with an eye to the policies of the statute under which the Court approves the decree. See, e.g., United States v. American Cyanamid, supra, 719 F.2d at 564. Nonetheless, as previously noted, the Supreme Court has cautioned against the assumption that a consent decree has, as its central purpose, the alleviation of a problem that was only alleged, and not proven, by the plaintiff in the underlying case. See, e.g., Firefighters Local Union No. 1784 v. Stotts, supra, 467 U.S. at 574 [104 S.Ct. at 2585]; United States v. Armour & Co., supra, 402 U.S. at 681 [91 S.Ct. at 1757]; SEC v. Levine, supra, slip op. at 4916-17 [at 1178-79]; Berger v. Heckler, supra, 771 F.2d at 1568. Since the Justice Department chose to settle its antitrust suit, the Decree in this case should not be viewed as simply an endorsement of its theory of monopolistic power and conduct by ASCAP. The very generality of the term “reasonable rate” suggests that in appropriate circumstances the rate court has some discretion to look to considerations beyond simply the policy of encouraging pricing restraint for ASCAP music. The nature of that discretion is at least suggested by the fact that the apparent antecedent for the rate court provision of the Consent Decree was a line of cases in which the courts have ordered antitrust violators to license their patents to all applicants for a “reasonable” royalty. Timberg, “The Antitrust Aspects of Merchandising Modern Music”, 19 Law & Contemp.Prob. 294, 308 (1954). See, e.g., 1A R. Callman, Unfair Competition, Trademarks & Monopolies § 4.56 at 60 & n. 31 (4th ed. 1981) (citing cases); Besser Mfg. Co. v. United States, 343 U.S. 444, 447 [72 S.Ct. 838, 840, 96 L.Ed. 1063] (1952); International Salt Co. v. United States, 332 U.S. 392, 398 n. 7 [68 S.Ct. 12, 16 n. 7, 92 L.Ed. 20] (1947). As the analysis in these cases suggests, the principal concern in seeking to determine a reasonable royalty is the policy of encouraging competition in the relevant industry and avoiding inflated pricing resulting from artificial market control. See, e.g., Int’l Salt Co. v. United States, supra, 332 U.S. at 401 [68 S.Ct. at 17]; United States v. Hartford Empire Co., 65 F.Supp. 271, 275-76 (N.D.Ohio 1946) (citing cases). Nonetheless, this goal did not lead those courts to attempt to construct a model of a perfectly competitive market, presumably because the antitrust laws do not compel such a pristine form of competition, because other relevant statutes — such as the patent laws — may embody important countervailing policies, and because there is generally no data available to recreate such a hypothetical market. The same limitations are evident here. Perfect competition is required neither by the antitrust laws nor by the Decree. Moreover, the policies underlying the Copyright Act are at least potentially relevant to the court’s analysis, depending of course upon the nature of the evidence adduced. Furthermore, since there is no competitive market in music rights, the parties and the Court lack any economic data that may be readily translated into a measure of competitive pricing for the rights in question. See, e.g., Sobel, supra, 3 Loyola Ent.L.J. at 33-34, 41; Cirace, supra, 47 Ford.L.Rev. at 277. Of necessity, then, we must look to very imperfect surrogates, particularly agreements reached either by these parties or by others for the purchase of comparable rights. See, e.g., Amusement & Music Operators Assn. v. Copyright Royalty Tribunal, 676 F.2d 1144, 1155-57 (7th Cir.), cert. denied, 459 U.S. 907 [103 S.Ct. 210, 74 L.Ed.2d 168] (1982); In re Buffalo Broadcasting Co., Memorandum and Order at 12-17 (S.D.N.Y. Feb. 17, 1987); In re Home Box Office, Inc., Memorandum & Order at 4-16 (S.D.N.Y. July 11, 1986); In re Showtime/The Movie Channel, Inc., Opinion and Order at 8-23 (S.D.N.Y. Jan. 14, 1985); In re American Broadcasting Companies, Inc., Findings of Fact & Conclusions of Law at 8 (S.D.N.Y. May 26, 1982). Such an exercise of course requires not only an analysis of comparability, but also consideration of the degree to which the assertedly analogous market under examination reflects an adequate degree of competition to justify reliance on agreements that it has spawned. Bearing these general standards in mind, I turn to the specific disputes in this case. As will be seen, the parties have not sought to inject into this proceeding any policies other than the need for setting a fee that reasonably approximates a competitive market rate. (E.g., Tr. 107) (ASCAP views “arm length” negotiated agreements as indicators of competitive market rates.) Rather, the core of the controversy involves disagreements as to the adequacy of each side’s chosen surrogates, as well as an implicit disagreement as to the nature of the rights that must be priced. B. The HBO & Disney Rates ASCAP relies principally upon a variation of the rates agreed to by HBO for the 1980-to-1982 and the 1983-to-1985 periods. Both of these sets of agreements involved payments of a flat sum, but if calculated on a per-subscriber basis, the 1980-82 fees amounted to either $0.20 or $0.24 and the 1983-85 fees amounted to approximately $0.25 per subscriber. ASCAP also seeks to invoke an offer by HBO in December 1985 to renew its license agreement with AS-CAP for an additional term on essentially the same conditions, except explicitly stated in terms of a “per-subscriber” rate of $0.24.1. ASCAP additionally cites the agreement of Disney Channel to an arguably similar rate for the period April 18, 1983 to December 31, 1985. SMC has launched a systematic attack on this approach, premised principally on the theory that ASCAP is a monopolist supplier of music rights, and therefore the results of its negotiations with music users merely ratify monopoly pricing. SMC also attacks the comparability of HBO’s and Disney’s agreements and suggests as well that if other negotiated fee arrangements must be looked to, they should be its own arrangements with BMI, which is ASCAP’s principal rival in the music licensing industry. We may accept as a general proposition that HBO and SMC are similarly situated since they are the two largest pay cable program suppliers, they supply a comparable range of programming with comparable use of music, they receive generally comparable payments on a per-subscriber basis from the cable system operators and each regards the other as its principal competitor for the growing pay cable TV market. (E.g., Tr. 320-21, 331-35, 342-46, 348-54, 404; JPS at ¶¶ 6, 7.) Although SMC argues at length that HBO’s greater commercial success during the relevant period— principally in terms of number of subscribers and costs (e.g., Tr. 357-58, 368-69, 384; SMC Exh. D) — undercuts ASCAP’s reliance on it as a comparable purchaser of rights, I find this argument to be unpersuasive. We can scarcely expect to find two purchasers of music rights who are in all respects identically situated, and this fact does not in itself preclude some measure of reliance on one purchaser’s agreement as an indicator of reasonable rates for another purchaser, particularly in view of the somewhat impressionistic nature of this rate-setting exercise. Moreover, in this case the rate proposal of ASCAP would translate the HBO payments into a “per subscriber” figure, thus addressing at least the disparity in subscriber levels between HBO and SMC. That said, I nonetheless conclude, for a number of reasons, that the fees agreed to by HBO for 1980 through 1985, even if translated into a per-subscriber figure, have not been shown to constitute a reasonable rate for SMC. Similarly, the cited Disney agreement does not constitute an appropriate model. Most obviously, the terms of the cited agreements and offers, as well as the particular circumstances in which they were negotiated, demonstrate that they do not support ASCAP’s requested rate for SMC. Furthermore, as a more general matter, ASCAP’s substantial control of the market for the music rights of its members and the cable companies’ past perception that they had virtually no economically viable alternative to a negotiated fee for ASCAP’s blanket license caution against assuming that the rates incorporated in the agreements and offer cited by ASCAP represent a reasonable rate for SMC. I first address the specifics of the cited agreements and offer. 1. HBO and Disney Licenses Distinguished The agreement between ASCAP and HBO for the 1980-82 period was reached at an early stage of HBO's commercial success, and specifically provided that it was “experimental” in nature. (Joint Exh. 7 at fl 1(C); Charap Dep. at 34.) It is doubtful, therefore, that it reflects an educated assessment by HBO of its long-term prospects, much less of the value of the ASCAP repertory to its anticipated success. In any event, this early period is well before the time period at issue here. As for the HBO-ASCAP agreement covering the 1983-85 period, it included a so-called “most favored nation” provision under which HBO would be entitled to a reduction in its fee if ASCAP subsequently reached agreement with SMC on a fee that was lower than the rate charged to HBO. (Joint Exh. 8 at 14(A).) Whatever may have been the likelihood of such an eventuality, HBO’s insistence on this clause undercuts the notion that it was agreeing, without qualification, to pay the amounts specified in the agreement. (See Deposition of Howard Schlieff at 121-22, 190-94, 247-48.) Of necessity, then, any valuation of the benefit of the bargain to AS-CAP would have to reflect a discount from the amounts stated in the contract in order to account for this contingency, although the amount of such a reduction is entirely a matter of speculation on the present record. Still another technical problem with the use of the 1983-85 HBO agreement as a model for SMC is that it was not cast in the form of a per-subscriber rate. Rather, it stated the fee simply as a sum certain to be paid over a specified period of time. This is significant for our purposes because HBO’s negotiator has testified credibly, and without contradiction, that in agreeing to the sums embodied in the agreement for the period 1983 to 1985, HBO was relying upon certain projections of future subscriber growth. In the end, it turned out that these projections were over-optimistic and, as a result, the sums reflected in the 1983-85 agreement amounted in effect to approximately $0.25 per subscriber. (Schlieff Dep. at 109-10, 114-15, 182-83.) The point of this distinction is that, if called upon to agree to a $0.25 per subscriber rate for the 1983-85 period — or an absolute sum that would have yielded this per-subscriber figure if HBO’s projections proved accurate — HBO might have declined to do so; at the very least, ASCAP has not demonstrated by virtue of invoking the 1983-85 contract that HBO would have agreed. Accordingly, the underlying premise of ASCAP’s reliance on the HBO agreements — that HBO willingly entered into one or more agreements to pay $0.25 per subscriber to ASCAP for a blanket license — is not borne out by the record. As for HBO’s offer in December 1985 to extend its agreement with ASCAP at a rate of $0.24.1 per subscriber (ASCAP Exh. 2), ASCAP seeks to introduce this proposal for various purposes. Principally, the offer is said to be relevant as evidence of HBO’s willingness to pay that rate at that time for the blanket license and thus as probative of what a reasonable rate would be for a similar time period. In addition, ASCAP argues that this offer undercuts the assertion by HBO’s negotiator, Mr. Schlieff, that in negotiating the agreement for the preceding period — 1983 to 1985 — HBO would have been unwilling to pay more than approximately $0.20 per subscriber. SMC objects to consideration of the offer for these purposes, citing Fed.R.Evid. 408. This proposal by HBO was invoked by ASCAP in another proceeding, commenced by HBO, and was rejected by this Court as inadmissible for this purpose under Fed.R. Evid. 408 and the implicit policy of the Consent Decree. See In re Home Box Office, Inc., Memorandum and Order at 16-19 (S.D.N.Y. July 11, 1986.) In this instance I find it admissible although not especially probative. The principal distinction between the two cases is that in this proceeding ASCAP does not seek to use the “settlement” offer of HBO against the offeror. The offer was made to avoid a proceeding concerning HBO’s fees, and it is now being offered in a proceeding that is designed to set a fee for SMC. Although at least one court has indicated that the common-law rule against admission of statements made in the course of settlement discussions applies only between the parties to the negotiation, see Huntley v. Snider, 86 F.2d 539, 540 (1st Cir.1936), the Second Circuit has not so limited Rule 408. Instead, it and other courts have indicated that Rule 408 may bar introduction of settlement discussions, or agreements, even if the settlement involved another case and a different party. See Playboy Enterprises, Inc. v. Chuckleberry Pub. Inc., 687 F.2d 563, 568-69 (2d Cir.1982); see also American Ins. Co. v. North American Co., 697 F.2d 79, 82 (2d Cir.1982). Accord, U.S. v. Contra Costa County Water District, 678 F.2d 90, 92 (9th Cir.1982); Young v. Verson Allsteel Press Co., 539 F.Supp. 193, 196 (E.D.Pa.1982). It must be noted, however, that these decisions all involved the proposed use of the offer against either the offeror or another party to the settlement. This distinction is significant because the most commonly accepted rationale for Rule 408 is that it encourages settlement by protecting parties to a settlement agreement or negotiation from having their good-faith efforts to settle a dispute used against them in subsequent litigation. As the Second Circuit has noted: Settlements have always been looked on with favor, and courts have deemed it against public policy to subject a person who has compromised a claim to the hazard of having a settlement proved in a subsequent lawsuit by another person asserting a cause of action arising out of the same transaction. Hawthorne v. Eckerson Co., 77 F.2d 844, 847 (2d Cir.1935). Although Wigmore suggests that the underlying concern is one of relevance — that “an offer of compromise ... does not ordinarily proceed from and imply a specific belief that the adversary claim is well-founded_” 4 C. Wigmore, Evidence § 1061 at 36 (Chadborne rev. 1972) (emphasis in original) — this view has generally been rejected, since an offer may in fact be quite probative as to liability or damages, particularly if the offered amount is close to the figure that represents the adversary’s maximum supportable damage claim. See, e.g., 2 J. Weinstein & M. Berger, Weinstein’s Evidence ¶ 408 [02] at 408-17 to 20 (1986); Morgan, Basic Problems of Evidence 210-11 (1962); Cleary, McCormick on Evidence § 274, at 812-13 (3rd ed.1984). But see United States v. 46,672.96 Acres of Land, More or Less, 521 F.2d 13, 17 (10th Cir.1975) (evidence of prices paid to avoid condemnation proceedings). Instead, as Judge Weinstein notes, “Rule 408 is based upon the policy of aiding the compromise and settlement of disputes.” 2 Weinstein’s Evidence, supra, at 408-19 (citing cases). See, e.g., Fed.R.Evid. 408 Notes of Advisory Committee (stating that this is “[a] more consistently impressive ground” for the Rule); S.Rep. No. 93-1277, 93d Cong.2d Sess. (1974), reprinted in 1974 U.S.Code, Cong. & Admin.News 7051, 7056; C. Wright & K. Graham, Federal Practice & Procedure § 5302, at 173 (1980); Trebor Sportswear Co. v. The Limited Stores, Inc., 865 F.2d 506, 510 (2d Cir.1989); Fiberglass Insulators, Inc. v. Dupuy, 856 F.2d 652, 654-55 (4th Cir.1988). The implication of this policy for our case is that settlement offers or agreements are not automatically inadmissible — even as to liability or the amount of damages — if they are offered against a party who was not a participant in the settlement discussions or agreement. See Kennon v. Slipstreamer, Inc., 794 F.2d 1067, 1075-76 (5th Cir.1986) (Thornberry, J., dissenting). Rather the Court must assess the degree of relevance and potential prejudice of the evidence in light of the particular circumstances of the case. See e.g., Wyatt v. Security Inn Food & Beverage, Inc., 819 F.2d 69, 71 (4th Cir.1987); Kennon v. Slipstreamer, Inc. supra, 794 F.2d at 1076 (Thornberry, J., dissenting) (suggesting applicability of Fed.R.Evid. 403). In this case the introduction of the HBO offer against SMC plainly does not pose the same danger to the policy of encouraging settlements as would the proscribed use of such an offer against HBO itself. Furthermore, in this unusual type of proceeding, it may fairly be said that a significant part of the court’s inquiry inevitably concerns the process of negotiation by would-be licensees for blanket licenses from ASCAP and other comparable entities. Although we may conclude, for various reasons, that some of these negotiations and agreements are not reliable indicators of a reasonable fee for SMC, there is no cogent reason for finding that the 1985 HBO offer is so uniquely irrelevant to our inquiry that it should not find its way into the evidentiary record for this purpose. As for potential prejudice, I note that all of the many offers and agreements that are being cited by ASCAP and SMC are being subjected to close scrutiny by the Court and will not be relied upon to any greater extent than is justified by the particular circumstances in which they were made. As will be seen, I find that HBO’s having made its 1985 offer does not demonstrate the appropriateness of imposing that proposal on SMC; nonetheless, it is admissible as at least relevant to that issue since admission would not contravene the policy underlying Rule 408. Although admissible, HBO’s offer is not persuasive as proof of what would be a “reasonable” rate for SMC. The HBO offer was to renew the prior agreement, and that prior contract encompassed a “most favored nation” provision. Thus, even if it had been accepted by ASCAP, HBO could ultimately have achieved a lower fee if ASCAP settled with SMC. Accordingly, HBO’s fee proposal does not represent an unconditional agreement to pay the quoted fee. (E.g., Schlieff Dep. at 121-22, 190-94, 247-48.) The final agreement that ASCAP cites in support of a $0.25-per-subscriber fee for SMC is the Disney Channel license, which involved payments variously estimated as amounting to $0.21 to $0.29 per subscriber for the period from April 1983 to the end of 1985. (Joint Exh. 10.) The principal problem with the proposed use of this agreement is that the Walt Disney Music Company owns the rights to much of the music aired on the Disney Channel and is a member of ASCAP. Accordingly, the use by the Disney Channel of that copyrighted music as a significant portion of the musical fare on its programming means that the Disney organization will recoup a large portion of the moneys it pays to ASCAP by way of royalties to its publishing house. (Deposition of Peter Nolan at 50, 52.) Thus, in effect, Disney ends up paying substantially less than $0.25 per subscriber, and indeed this consideration apparently contributed significantly to its willingness to agree to the fee that ASCAP now seeks to impose on SMC. {See Charap Dep. at 287-89; Nolan Dep. at 52, 61.) Furthermore, I note that the Disney Channel agreed to these fees at an early stage of its existence, when it was seeking to minimize substantial unplanned expenses— such as the cost of litigation in the rate court, with the attendant risk of an unfavorable outcome — and that its agreement to the stated fees for that early period appears to reflect a host of considerations that would undercut an