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CARNES, Circuit Judge: The underlying dispute in this case involves luxury condominiums in West Palm Beach, Florida. The plaintiffs entered into contracts to purchase units in Two City Plaza, a new high-rise building that offers ocean views and “cruise-like amenities” such as a Zen Garden, Moonlight Theatre, and a rooftop resort pool and steam room. The plaintiffs were eager to enjoy those amenities, but there was trouble in paradise, or in getting paradise constructed. Extensive construction delays (and maybe a downturn in the real estate market) turned the plaintiffs’ eagerness for the promised condos into eagerness to get out of their contracts. After the developer, Kolter City Plaza II, Inc., refused to let the plaintiffs out of the contracts, they filed a class action lawsuit against Kolter in Florida state court, alleging violations of the Florida Condominium Act as well as breach of contract. This appeal is not about the merits of the lawsuit but about whether it will be decided in state or federal court. It brings us important issues of federal removal jurisdiction and the Class Action Fairness Act, the decision of which requires that we take a close look back at Lowery v. Alabama Power Co., 483 F.3d 1184 (11th Cir.2007). The district court relied on Lowery in granting the plaintiffs’ motion to remand this lawsuit to state court. We think it misapplied or overextended that decision. As we will explain, Lowery was a case that involved the removal procedures in the second paragraph of 28 U.S.C. § 1446(b), and the decision must be read in that context. While some of the language of the opinion sweeps more broadly, it is dicta insofar as a § 1446(b) first paragraph case, like this one, is concerned. While we may consider dicta for its persuasive value, we are not persuaded to follow Lowery’s dicta about the type of evidence a defendant that removes a case under the first paragraph of § 1446(b) may use in establishing the requisite amount in controversy. I. FACTS AND PROCEDURAL HISTORY On April 9, 2009, Andrew Pretka, Paul Litvak, and Michele Litvak filed a class action complaint against Kolter in Florida state court. Kolter was served with a copy of the initial complaint on the same day. On April 27, 2009, those three plaintiffs, joined by Peter O’Connell, Harriet Dinari, Bruce Fisher, and Daniel D’Loughy, filed an amended complaint and had it served two days later. The two complaints are materially identical except that the amended complaint was brought by all seven, instead of just three, named plaintiffs. (For simplicity, we will refer to the amended, operative complaint as “the complaint” unless otherwise noted.) Based on alleged violations of the Florida Condominium Act, as well as breach of contract, the plaintiffs sought in the complaint “to rescind the purchase and sale contracts and obtain the return of their deposits and the return of the deposits for all similarly situated depositors.” Complaint ¶ 3. As for the amount in controversy, the question at the heart of this appeal, the complaint is indeterminate. It states that the case “is an action for monetary damages in excess of $15,000.00, exclusive of interest, costs and attorney’s fees.” /¿¶4. The complaint, however, does contain some additional information on the amount in controversy. Copies of the named plaintiffs’ contracts are attached to the complaint. Those exhibits share “identical contract language” not only with each other, but also with the contracts executed by unnamed putative class members. Id. ¶ 22. One part of that identical contract language is a line where the parties to each agreement entered the “Initial Deposit” paid to the escrow agent, the amount of which was “equal to 10% of [the] Purchase Price.” Another part of the contract language shared by the agreements is an entry for the “Construction Payment” paid to the seller, the amount of which also was “equal to 10% of the Purchase Price.” It is undisputed that the sum of each plaintiffs “initial deposit” and “construction payment” counts toward the amount in controversy; the plaintiffs want both of those deposits returned. The six exhibits attached to the complaint, on which the required deposit amounts have been written, show that the named plaintiffs agreed to make initial deposits and construction payments totaling $628,240; the total deposit per condominium ranging from $73,780 to $121,600, with the average being $104,707. The complaint also states that “[t]he class is believed to consist of over 300 members.” Id. ¶48. The complaint and its attachments do not identify all the class members, but the complaint alleges that their identity is “a matter capable of ministerial determination” from Kolter’s records. Id. ¶ 55 (“The only individual, as opposed to common, issue is the identification of the class members who provided deposits for construction of a condominium unit to the Defendant, a matter capable of ministerial determination from Defendant’s records.”). The complaint also alleges that the named plaintiffs’ claims are typical of those of the class. Id. ¶ 49 (“Plaintiffs’ claims are typical of those of the class members. All claims are based on the same factual and legal theories involving the same Condominium building, the same form contract (required by law to be identical for all purchasers), the same delinquent developer, the same basis for rescission and/or breach, and the same ultimate relief — the return of the purchasers’ deposits.”). On May 8, 2009, which was the twenty-ninth day after the initial complaint was filed, Kolter removed the case to the Southern District of Florida, pursuant to the Class Action Fairness Act of 2005 (“CAFA”), Pub.L. No. 109-2, 119 Stat. 4 (codified in scattered sections of 28 U.S.C.). Kolter’s notice of removal stated that the proposed class consists of more than 100 members, that the parties are minimally diverse, and that the aggregate amount in controversy exceeds $5 million, exclusive of interest and costs. Kolter’s notice of removal also stated that CAFA’s amount-in-controversy requirement was met because the company had “collected purchase deposits for units at the Two City Plaza condominium totaling in excess of $5 million.” Kolter supported that factual assertion by attaching to the notice of removal a sworn declaration by Michael Clarke, Chief Financial Officer of Kolter’s parent company. In his declaration, Clarke states that Kolter’s corporate records are maintained under his “supervision, direction, and control” and that he had personal knowledge of the facts that he was setting forth. Clarke stated that Two City Plaza contains 468 luxury units, and that “more than 100 prospective purchasers of condominium units at Two City Plaza have executed the same purchase and sale form contracts as those attached as exhibits to the Amended Complaint, save for certain buyer-specific addenda to those contracts.” He also attested that Kolter had “collected more than $5 million in condominium unit purchase deposits from prospective purchasers of units at Two City Plaza.” On that basis, Kolter’s notice of removal argued that “it is clear from the allegations of the Amended Complaint as well as the facts set forth in this Notice of Removal that the amount in controversy in this case exceeds the $5,000,000 minimum required under 28 U.S.C. § 1332(d)(2).” The plaintiffs filed a motion to remand on May 26, 2009, arguing that Lowery required the district court to ignore Clarke’s declaration because it was not a document received from the plaintiffs. 483 F.3d at 1213-15 (“[U]nder [28 U.S.C.] § 1446(b), in assessing the propriety of removal, the court considers the document received by the defendant from the plaintiff — be it the initial complaint or a later received paper — and determines whether that document and the notice of removal unambiguously establish federal jurisdiction.”). On June 12, 2009, Kolter filed an opposition to remand making several contentions. First, it contended that the jurisdictional amount is “readily deducible” from the plaintiffs’ complaint, even if Clarke’s declaration were ignored. See id. at 1211 (“If the jurisdictional amount is either stated clearly on the face of the documents before the court, or readily deducible from them, then the court has jurisdiction.”). Kolter based that assertion on an extrapolation from the named plaintiffs’ deposit amounts to at least 301 named and unnamed class members. Second, Kolter contended that Lowery, a torts case, does not apply to a contract-related dispute, such as this case, where the defendant has unique knowledge of the value of the plaintiffs’ claims. See Id. at 1214 n. 66 (“A defendant would be free to introduce evidence regarding damages arising from a source such as a contract provision whether or not the defendant received the contract from the plaintiff.”). Accordingly, Kolter argued that it could rely on Clarke’s declaration as evidence of the amount in controversy. Third, Kolter contended that the district court could and should consider the evidence that it had submitted with its opposition to remand. The bulk of that post-removal evidence was the first three pages of even/ unnamed plaintiffs contract — i.e., every agreement executed by a purchaser whose deposits Kolter had not returned. Another exhibit attached to Kolter’s opposition to remand was a sworn declaration from Francine Gutierrez, the Contract and Closing Manager for Kolter’s parent company. Gutierrez attested that she had personally reviewed all of the contracts, as well as the financial records for the purchase deposits that Kolter still held. Based on her review, Gutierrez swore that Kolter possessed condominium purchase deposits totaling $41,183,226.08. The district court held a hearing on November 13, 2009, to hear argument on whether the amount in controversy exceeds $5 million. At the hearing the plaintiffs argued that they “just don’t know” their potential damages “at this point in time,” primarily because the number of class plaintiffs was uncertain. With respect to the damage amount for each class member, however, the plaintiffs admitted that “we look at, as the Defendants did in their analysis, the various deposit amounts.” Relying on the Lowery decision, the plaintiffs argued that the district court, in assessing the amount in controversy, was limited to the “four corners” of the documents the plaintiffs had provided to the defendants; they insisted that the Clarke and Gutierrez declarations, as well as the unnamed plaintiffs’ contracts, were all “extraneous.” The district court granted the plaintiffs’ motion to remand on November 30, 2009, ruling that Kolter had failed to prove, by a preponderance of evidence, that the amount in controversy exceeds $5 million. See Pretka v. Kolter City Plaza II, Inc., No. 09-80706, 2009 WL 4547042 (S.D.Fla. Nov. 30, 2009). Specifically, the district court: (1) read Lowery as barring consideration of Clarke’s declaration, Gutierrez’s declaration, and the unnamed plaintiffs’ contracts because none of them is “a document received by Defendant from Plaintiffs”; (2) read Lowery as requiring it to reject Kolter’s “impermissible speculation” on the “potential damage claim of putative class members, as opposed to named plaintiffs”; (3) and read Lowery as barring consideration of the Gutierrez declaration and the unnamed plaintiffs’ contracts because Kolter did not submit them at the time of its notice of removal. Kolter applied to this Court for permission to appeal on December 9, 2009, and we granted the application on April 5, 2010. II. THE JURISDICTIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR REMOVAL We review de novo the district court’s decision to remand a CAFA case to state court for lack of subject matter jurisdiction. Lowery, 483 F.3d at 1193; Miedema v. Maytag Corp., 450 F.3d 1322, 1326 (11th Cir.2006); see 28 U.S.C. § 1453(c)(1) (creating an exception to 28 U.S.C. § 1447(d) for CAFA cases). CAFA gives the district courts subject matter jurisdiction to entertain a “mass action” removed from state court provided that at least four requirements are met. “These requirements are: (1) an amount in controversy requirement of an aggregate of $5,000,000 in claims; (2) a diversity requirement of minimal diversity; (3) a numerosity requirement that the action involve the monetary claims of 100 or more plaintiffs; and (4) a commonality requirement that the plaintiffs’ claims involve common questions of law or fact.” Loioenj, 483 F.3d at 1202-03; see 28 U.S.C. § 1332(d)(ll). The only one of those requirements that is contested in this appeal is the first one — whether the amount in controversy exceeds $5 million. A court’s analysis of the amount-in-controversy requirement focuses on how much is in controversy at the time of removal, not later. See Vega v. T-Mobile USA, Inc., 564 F.3d 1256, 1268 n. 12 (11th Cir.2009); Miedema, 450 F.3d at 1332 n. 9; Sierminski v. Transouth Fin. Corp., 216 F.3d 945, 946 (11th Cir.2000) (holding that a court may consider evidence submitted after the removal petition is filed, “but only to establish the facts present at the time of removal”). As the First Circuit has explained, “the plaintiffs’ likelihood of success on the merits is largely irrelevant to the court’s jurisdiction because the pertinent question is what is in controversy in the case, not how much the plaintiffs are ultimately likely to recover.” Amoche v. Guarantee Trust Life Ins. Co., 556 F.3d 41, 51 (1st Cir.2009); see also McPhail v. Deere & Co., 529 F.3d 947, 956 (10th Cir.2008) (“The amount in controversy is not proof of the amount the plaintiff will recover. Rather, it is an estimate of the amount that will be put at issue in the course of the litigation.”); Brill v. Countrywide Home Loans, Inc., 427 F.3d 446, 448 (7th Cir.2005). “Indeterminate complaints pose two independent analytical problems, which should not be, but sometimes are, confused.” Robinson v. Quality Ins. Co., 633 F.Supp. 572, 575 (S.D.Ala.1986). The first problem is whether removal is jurisdiction-ally proper. See 28 U.S.C. § 1332. The second problem is whether removal is timely, which is not a jurisdictional issue. See 28 U.S.C. §§ 1446, 1453(b); see also In re Uniroyal Goodrich Tire Co., 104 F.3d 322, 324 (11th Cir.1997) (“The untimeliness of a removal is a procedural, instead of a jurisdictional, defect.”); Weeks v. Fid. & Cas. Co. of N.Y., 218 F.2d 503, 504 (5th Cir.1955) (“[T]he time limitation prescribed by the removal statute within which a petition for removal may be filed is not jurisdictional, but is merely modal and formal .... ”). We will discuss the jurisdictional issues here and the procedural issues in Part III. A. The Burden of Persuasion and Standard of Proof “CAFA does not change the traditional rule that the party seeking to remove the case to federal court bears the burden of establishing federal jurisdiction.” Evans v. Walter Indus., Inc., 449 F.3d 1159, 1164 (11th Cir.2006); see also Lowery, 483 F.3d at 1207-08; Miedema, 450 F.3d at 1328. “Where, as here, the plaintiff has not pled a specific amount of damages, the removing defendant must prove by a preponderance of the evidence that the amount in controversy exceeds the jurisdictional requirement.” Williams v. Best Buy Co., Inc., 269 F.3d 1316, 1319 (11th Cir.2001); see also Lowery, 483 F.3d at 1208-10; Tapscott v. MS Dealer Serv. Corp., 77 F.3d 1353, 1356-57 (11th Cir.1996) (“[W]e hold where a plaintiff has made an unspecified demand for damages in state court, a removing defendant must prove by a preponderance of the evidence that the amount in controversy more likely than not exceeds the [applicable] jurisdictional requirement.” (emphasis added)), overruled on other grounds by Cohen v. Office Depot, Inc., 204 F.3d 1069, 1072 (11th Cir.2000). We concluded in Lowery that it would be “impermissible speculation” for a court to hazard a guess on the jurisdictional amount in controversy “without the benefit of any evidence [on] the value of individual claims.” 483 F.3d at 1220; see also id. at 1214-15 (“If [the defendant’s] evidence is insufficient to establish that removal was proper or that jurisdiction was present, neither the defendants nor the court may speculate in an attempt to make up for the notice’s failings. The absence of factual allegations pertinent to the existence of jurisdiction is dispositive and, in such absence, the existence of jurisdiction should not be divined by looking to the stars.” (footnote and citation omitted)); Miedema, 450 F.3d at 1332. Because the proper interpretation of Lowery's “impermissible speculation” rule is important, we will explain it in greater detail. In Lowery the defendant, Alabama Power, had attached to its notice of removal copies of the initial complaint and the third amended complaint, but nothing else. 483 F.3d at 1189 & n. 8. Those pleadings offered no specific facts on the amount in controversy. See id. at 1219 (“[The third amended] complaint contains neither an ad damnum clause indicating the amount of damages sought, nor any other concrete information about the value of plaintiffs claims.” (emphasis added)); see also Lowery v. Honeywell Int’l, Inc., 460 F.Supp.2d 1288, 1291 (N.D.Ala.2006) (“There is nothing in the original complaint to distinguish between a plaintiff who may be claiming severe lung disease from one who may be claiming grit in her grits.”). The notice of removal in Lowery contained a conclusory allegation that CAFA’s amount-in-controversy requirement had been satisfied, but that was not enough. See Williams, 269 F.3d at 1320 (“A conclusory allegation in the notice of removal that the jurisdictional amount is satisfied, without setting forth the underlying facts supporting such an assertion, is insufficient to meet the defendant’s burden.”). Recognizing the shortcomings of Alabama Power’s notice of removal, the Lowery plaintiffs filed a motion to remand. In response, Alabama Power filed a supplement to its notice of removal, pointing out that to reach CAFA’s $5 million jurisdictional threshold, each of the 400 plaintiffs’ claims would need to put in controversy-only $12,500. The supplement argued it was evident more than $5 million was in controversy because plaintiffs in recent mass tort cases in Alabama had received jury verdicts or settlements exceeding that amount. Lowery, 483 F.3d at 1189. But the supplement failed to explain the facts of those other tort cases or link them to the facts of the Lowery case. See id. at 1221 (“Looking only to this evidence and the complaint, the facts regarding other cases tell us nothing about the value of the claims in this lawsuit. Even were we to look to evidence beyond that contained within the notice of removal, in the present dispute — with a record bereft of detail— we cannot possibly ascertain how similar the current action is to those the defendants cite.”); Loivery, 460 F.Supp.2d at 1299 (“Defendants’ hopeful conjecture based on Alabama jury verdicts in cases that may have some similarity to this case, but are not closely similar, do[es] not suffice ....”). We concluded in Loivery that Alabama Power’s supplement and its additional “ ‘evidence’ ” — note the scare quotes— about other mass tort cases told us “nothing about the value of the claims” because the record was “bereft of detail” about whether the plaintiffs’ complaint was similar to those other cases. Lowery, 483 F.3d at 1220-21; see also id. (“Absent specific detail about the present action, the supplement in no way clarifies the aggregate value of the claims here.”). The record in Lowery contained only “naked pleadings” — no specific factual details, no discovery, no affidavits or declarations, no testimony, no interrogatories, and no exhibits other than the complaints. We took pains to emphasize that fact. Over and over. See id. at 1189 n. 8 (“[Ajlabama Power cited nothing from such discovery in support of its notice of removal or in its subsequent argument to the district court .... ”); id. at 1209 (“naked pleadings”); id. at 1210 (“bare pleadings”); id. (“a removal case — like this one — where there is no evidence to review”); id. (distinguishing Lowery from a case in which counsel admitted certain jurisdictional facts during oral argument and another case .in which the defendant’s employee testified during a pretrial hearing); id. (“naked pleading context”); id. (“only the bare pleadings are available”); id. at 1210-11 (“We have no evidence before us by which to make any informed assessment of the amount in controversy.”); id. at 1213 n. 63 (“bare pleadings”); id. at 1217 (“[Ajlabama Power ... has asserted no factual basis to support federal jurisdiction ....”); id. at 1220 (emphasizing that we were “without the benefit of any evidence [regarding] the value of individual claims”). We stated in Lowery that “[t]he absence of factual allegations pertinent to the existence of jurisdiction is dispositive and, in such absence, the existence of jurisdiction should not be divined by looking to the stars.” Id. at 1215 (emphasis added). On that basis we concluded that the Lowery defendants had failed to establish federal jurisdiction by a preponderance of the evidence. See id. at 1220-21. But Lowery did not say, much less purport to hold, that the use of deduction, inference, or other extrapolation of the amount in controversy is impermissible, as some district courts have thought. That was not the question in Lowery. Instead, the question was how to apply the preponderance of the evidence standard in the “fact-free context” of that particular case. Id. at 1209. The answer we gave is that without facts or specific allegations, the amount in controversy could be “divined [only] by looking at the stars” — only through speculation — and that is impermissible. See id. at 1209, 1215. A different question is presented, however, when a removing defendant makes specific factual allegations establishing jurisdiction and can support them (if challenged by the plaintiff or the court) with evidence combined with reasonable deductions, reasonable inferences, or other reasonable extrapolations. That kind of reasoning is not akin to conjecture, speculation, or star gazing. See Northup Props., Inc. v. Chesapeake Appalachia, L.L.C., 567 F.3d 767, 770-71 (6th Cir.2009) (concluding that the defendant’s affidavits were specific enough to prevent the determination of the amount in controversy “from becoming a matter of judicial star-gazing”); Siewe v. Gonzales, 480 F.3d 160, 168 (2d Cir.2007) (“An inference is not a suspicion or a guess. It is a reasoned, logical decision to conclude that a disputed fact exists on the basis of another fact that is known to exist.” (quotation and other marks omitted)); cf. Maiz v. Virani, 253 F.3d 641, 664 (11th Cir.2001) (“Suffice it to say that while damages may not be determined by mere speculation or guess, it will be enough if the evidence shows the extent of the damages as a matter of just and reasonable inference.” (quotation and other marks omitted)). The point is that a removing defendant is not required to prove the amount in controversy beyond all doubt or to banish all uncertainty about it. Compare Roe v. Michelin N. Am., Inc., 637 F.Supp.2d 995, 999 (M.D.Ala.2009) (“While it would be speculative to specify the exact dollar amount at issue in this case, it is not speculative to conclude from the egregious conduct alleged that the amount, whatever it is, far exceeds $75,000.”), with Miedema, 450 F.3d at 1332 (“Given the particular facts and circumstances of the instant case, the district court did not err when it found that ‘great uncertainty’ remained about the amount in controversy [and] resolved that uncertainty in favor of remand.”). The law does not demand perfect knowledge or depend any less on reasonable inferences and deductions than we all do in everyday life. As Justice Holmes observed, “all life is an experiment. Every year if not every day we have to wager our salvation upon some prophecy based upon imperfect knowledge.” Abrams v. United States, 250 U.S. 616, 630, 40 S.Ct. 17, 22, 63 L.Ed. 1173 (1919) (Holmes, J., dissenting). B. The Types of Evidence that May be Used to Support Removal “When the complaint does not claim a specific amount of damages, removal from state court is [jurisdictionally] proper if it is facially apparent from the complaint that the amount in controversy exceeds the jurisdictional requirement.” Williams, 269 F.3d at 1319. “If the jurisdictional amount is not facially apparent from the complaint, the court should look to the notice of removal and may require evidence relevant to the amount in controversy at the time the case was removed.” Id.; see also, e.g., 16 James Wm. Moore et ah, Moore’s Federal Practice § 107.14[2][g], at 107-86.4 to 107-86.5 (3d ed. 2010) (“When determining if the defendant has satisfied this burden [to establish jurisdiction by a preponderance of the evidence], the court will consider first whether it is facially apparent from the complaint that the jurisdictional amount is in controversy. If it is not, the court may consider facts alleged in the notice of removal, judicial admissions made by the plaintiffs, non-sworn letters submitted to the court, or other summary judgment type evidence that may reveal that the amount in controversy requirement is satisfied.”). The substantive jurisdictional requirements of removal do not limit the types of evidence that may be used to satisfy the preponderance of the evidence standard. Defendants may introduce their own affidavits, declarations, or other documentation — provided of course that removal is procedurally proper. See Williams, 269 F.3d at 1319; Miedema, 450 F.3d at 1330; Sierminski, 216 F.3d at 949 (the district court may “require parties to submit summary-judgment-type evidence relevant to the amount in controversy at the time of removal” (quotation marks omitted)); Fowler v. Safeco Ins. Co. of Am., 915 F.2d 616, 617 (11th Cir.1990) (“Defendants have the opportunity to submit affidavits, depositions, or other evidence to support removal.”); see also De Busk v. Harvin, 212 F.2d 143, 146 (5th Cir.1954) (holding, in a case removed under 28 U.S.C. § 1442, that the district court had properly denied the plaintiffs motion to remand based on “[t]he uncontroverted affidavits of appellees, attached as exhibits to the amended petition for removal”). We do not read Lowery as holding to the contrary. If we did, there would be a serious prior panel precedent problem. See United States v. Ohayon, 483 F.3d 1281, 1289 (11th Cir.2007) (“When a decision of this Court conflicts with an earlier decision that has not been overturned en banc, we are bound by the earlier decision.”); United States v. Hornaday, 392 F.3d 1306, 1316 (11th Cir.2004) (“Where there is a conflict between a prior panel decision and those that came before it, we must follow the earlier ones.”). The other circuit courts of appeal that have addressed the issue agree with our circuit law that defendants may submit a wide range of evidence in order to satisfy the jurisdictional requirements of removal. See Dep’t of Recreation & Sports of Puerto Rico v. World Boxing Ass’n, 942 F.2d 84, 88 (1st Cir.1991) (“[T]he party seeking to invoke jurisdiction ... may meet [its] burden by ... submitting affidavits.”); Davenport v. Procter & Gamble Mfg. Co., 241 F.2d 511, 514 (2d Cir.1957) (“The petition for removal alleged that more than $3,000 was involved, and the affidavits in opposition to the motion to remand furnish ample support for the finding [that the amount in controversy requirement was satisfied].”); USX Corp. v. Adriatic Ins. Co., 345 F.3d 190, 206 n. 12 (3d Cir.2003) (holding that a defendant may establish jurisdictional facts by filing affidavits in response to the plaintiffs’ motion to remand); Strawn v. AT&T Mobility LLC, 530 F.3d 293, 299 (4th Cir.2008) (finding the defendant’s affidavit sufficient to establish the amount in controversy under CAFA where the plaintiffs had “offered nothing” to challenge its accuracy); Allen v. R & H Oil & Gas Co., 63 F.3d 1326, 1335 (5th Cir.1995) (“If not [facially apparent], a removing attorney may support federal jurisdiction by setting forth the facts in controversy — preferably in the removal petition, but sometimes by affidavit — that support a finding of the requisite amount.”); Northup Props., 567 F.3d at 770-71 (concluding that the defendant’s affidavits had established the requisite jurisdictional amount); Meridian Sec. Ins. Co. v. Sadowski, 441 F.3d 536, 541-42 (7th Cir.2006) (noting that a removing defendant may establish the amount in controversy “by introducing evidence, in the form of affidavits from the defendant’s employees or experts, about how much it would cost to satisfy the plaintiffs demands”); Singer v. State Farm Mut. Auto. Ins. Co., 116 F.3d 373, 377 (9th Cir.1997) (“The district court may consider whether it is facially apparent from the complaint that the jurisdictional amount is in controversy. If not, the court may consider facts in the removal petition, and may require parties to submit summary-judgment-type evidence relevant to the amount in controversy at the time of removal.” (quotation marks and citation omitted)); McPhail, 529 F.3d at 956 (“[B]eyond the complaint itself, other documentation can provide the basis for determining the amount in controversy — either interrogatories obtained in state court before removal was filed, or affidavits or other evidence submitted in federal court afterward. This roughly parallels a plaintiffs right, under Fed.R.Civ.P. 10(c), to make ‘[a] copy of a written instrument that is an exhibit to a pleading ... a part of the pleading for all purposes.’” (citations omitted)). No court of appeals decision we could find holds that a defendant may not submit its own evidence in order to satisfy the jurisdictional requirements of removal, and we conclude that the defendant can. With regard to the substantive jurisdictional requirements, which allow consideration of the Clarke and Gutierrez declarations and the unnamed plaintiffs’ contracts, Kolter established by more than a preponderance of the evidence that the amount in controversy exceeds $5 million. The complaint seeks a refund of all of the plaintiffs’ deposits, and the Gutierrez declaration by itself establishes that the plaintiffs have deposited more than $41 million. Indeed, the plaintiffs concede that Kolter’s evidence, if consideration of it is procedurally proper, would establish the amount in controversy by a preponderance of the evidence. III. THE PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS FOR REMOVAL The substantive jurisdictional requirements, however, are not the only hurdles that a removing defendant must clear. There are also procedural requirements regarding the timeliness of removal. See 28 U.S.C. §§ 1446, 1453(b). It was on the basis of those procedural requirements that this Court in Lowery rejected evidence submitted by the defendant, Alabama Power. We held that Alabama Power’s evidence could not be considered because it was not a document received from the plaintiffs. See Lowery, 483 F.3d at 1221 (“[WJe note that this evidence regarding the value of other tort claims was not received from the plaintiffs, but rather was gathered from outside sources. As such, the evidence is not of the sort contemplated by [28 U.S.C.] § 1446(b).”); see also id. at 1213 n. 63. The scope of Lowery’s “receipt from the plaintiff’ rule is a critical issue in this case. The district court held that Lowery barred it from considering Kolter’s declarations and the unnamed plaintiffs’ contracts because none of those documents was received from the plaintiffs. Kolter contends that Lowery is distinguishable because it was a torts case, instead of a contract-related dispute, and because Lowery and this case were removed under different paragraphs of subsection (b) of § 1446. The plaintiffs contend that the district court got it right and that evidence produced by a defendant cannot be considered. To settle this disagreement we have to examine in some detail the procedural requirements of the removal statute and the interpretation of them in our Lowery decision. A. The Two Types of Removal CAFA’s removal provision expressly adopts the procedures of the general removal statute, 28 U.S.C. § 1446. Low ery, 483 F.3d at 1211; see 28 U.S.C. § 1453(b). Section 1446(b), which governs the timeliness of removal in civil cases, contains two paragraphs. The first paragraph deals with civil actions that are removable at the time of commencement. It provides: The notice of removal of a civil action or proceeding shall be filed within thirty-days after the receipt by the defendant, through service or otherwise, of a copy of the initial pleading setting forth the claim for relief upon which such action or proceeding is based, or within thirty days after the service of summons upon the defendant if such initial pleading has then been filed in court and is not required to be served on the defendant, whichever period is shorter. 28 U.S.C. § 1446(b). The second paragraph of the same subsection deals with civil actions that were not removable, or could not have been determined to be removable, until “an amended pleading, motion, order or other paper” establishes their removability. That second paragraph provides: If the case stated by the initial pleading is not removable, a notice of removal may be filed within thirty days after receipt by the defendant, through service or otherwise, of a copy of an amended pleading, motion, order or other paper from which it may first be ascertained that the case is one which is or has become removable .... Id.; see Am. Law Inst., Federal Judicial Code Revision Project (2004), reprinted in 19A Charles A. Wright, Arthur R. Miller & Edward H. Cooper, Federal Practice and Procedure 373, 657 (4th ed.2009); see also Caterpillar Inc. v. Lewis, 519 U.S. 61, 68-69, 117 S.Ct. 467, 472-73, 136 L.Ed.2d 437 (1996). Importantly, the present case and the Lowery case were removed under different paragraphs of § 1446(b). Kolter is not relying on the second paragraph of that subsection to establish the timeliness of its removal but instead on the first one, which applies because Kolter filed its notice of removal within thirty days of being served with the summons and initial complaint. See § 1446(b) (first paragraph); Murphy Bros., Inc. v. Michetti Pipe Stringing, Inc., 526 U.S. 344, 354, 119 S.Ct. 1322, 1328, 143 L.Ed.2d 448 (1999) (“[I]f the summons and complaint are served together, the 30-day period for removal runs at once.”). Because Kolter filed its notice of removal within the time specified in the first paragraph of § 1446(b), its removal was timely. See Badon v. RJR Nabisco Inc., 224 F.3d 382, 390 (5th Cir.2000). Kolter “do[es] not, and do[es] not need to, invoke the second paragraph’s extended filing period.” Id. By contrast, in Lowery Alabama Power removed the case under the second paragraph of § 1446(b). The notice of removal came three years after the Lowery plaintiffs had filed their initial complaint — long after the closing of the 30-day removal window supplied by the first paragraph of § 1446(b). See Lowery, 483 F.3d at 1188. The Lowery opinion itself acknowledges that it is a second paragraph case. See id. at 1213 n. 63 (“In ... the case before us, the defendant ... need[s] an ‘other paper’ to provide the grounds for removal under the second paragraph of § 1446(b).”). B. Procedural Limits on the Types of Evidence Used to Support Removal We now turn to what, if any, limits the removal statute places on the types of evidence that may be used by a defendant that removes the case within the time specified by the first paragraph of § 1446(b), a question not presented by the facts of the Lowery case. We will begin by looking at how the law in this area has evolved. Between 1875, when lower federal courts received general removal jurisdiction, and 1948, when Congress enacted 28 U.S.C. § 1446, the Supreme Court repeatedly acknowledged, that defendants could establish jurisdictional facts with their own affidavits or other evidence. See, e.g., Ex parte Pa. Co., 137 U.S. 451, 457, 11 S.Ct. 141, 143, 34 L.Ed. 738 (1890) (“If the petition for removal states the facts upon which the allegation is founded, and that petition be verified by affidavit of a person or persons in whom the court has confidence, this may be regarded as prima facie proof sufficient to satisfy the conscience of the court. If more should be required by the court, more should be offered.”). ■ Indeed, it was “common and recognized” that a removing defendant could rely on affidavits to defeat a motion to remand. See Cyclopedia of Federal Procedure § 516, at 543 (2d ed. 1943) (“The use of affidavits on the hearing of an application to remand is common and recognized, and the parties may be required to file affidavits.”), quoted by Doggett v. Hunt, 93 F.Supp. 426, 430 (S.D.Ala.1950); see also Land v. Dollar, 330 U.S. 731, 735 n. 4, 67 S.Ct. 1009, 1011 n. 4, 91 L.Ed. 1209 (1947) (“[WJhen a question of the District Court’s jurisdiction is raised, either by a party or by the court on its own motion, the court may inquire by affidavits or otherwise, into the facts as they exist.” (internal citations omitted)); Mechanical Appliance Co. v. Castleman, 215 U.S. 437, 445, 30 S.Ct. 125; 129, 54 L.Ed. 272 (1910) (“These affidavits [from both the plaintiff and defendant] are made part of the record by a bill of exceptions and we think they should have been considered upon the question of [removal] jurisdiction.”); Carr v. Fife, 156 U.S. 494, 497, 15 S.Ct. 427, 428, 39 L.Ed. 508 (1895) (stating that it “has always been held” that the amount in controversy may be “show[n] by ex parte affidavits”). “We presume that Congress legislates against the backdrop of established principles of state and federal common law, and that when it wishes to deviate from deeply rooted principles, it will say so.” United States v. Baxter Int’l, Inc., 345 F.3d 866, 900 (11th Cir.2003); see also Bledsoe v. Palm Beach County Soil & Water Conservation Dist., 133 F.3d 816, 822 (11th Cir.1998) (“Congress is deemed to know the executive and judicial gloss given to certain language and thus adopts the existing interpretation unless it affirmatively acts to change the meaning.” (quotation marks omitted)); White v. Mercury Marine, Div. of Brunswick, Inc., 129 F.3d 1428, 1434-35 (11th Cir.1997) (“Congress is assumed to act with the knowledge of existing law and interpretations when it passes new legislation.”). Indeed, the Supreme Court has applied that presumption when interpreting § 1446(b). See Murphy Bros., 526 U.S. 344, 119 S.Ct. 1322, 143 L.Ed.2d 448 (reading § 1446(b) in light of the common-law principle that formal process is required before an individual or entity may be named as a defendant, and finding no indication that Congress tried to break away from the traditional understanding); see also Neuman-Green, Inc. v. Alfonzo-Lamin, 490 U.S. 826, 832 n. 4, 109 S.Ct. 2218, 2222 n. 4, 104 L.Ed.2d 893 (1989) (“[N]o change in law should be presumed from the 1948 revision of the Judicial Code unless an intent to make such changes is clearly expressed.” (quotation marks omitted)). With that presumption in mind, we do not believe that Congress, when it enacted § 1446, altered the traditional understanding that defendants could offer their own affidavits or other evidence to establish federal removal jurisdiction. The original version of § 1446(b) provided that “[t]he petition for removal of a civil action or proceeding may be filed within twenty days after commencement of the action or service of process, whichever is later.” Act of June 25, 1948, ch. 646, Pub.L. No. 773, 62 Stat. 869, 939 (amended 1949); see also Mmphy Bros., 526 U.S. at 351, 119 S.Ct. at 1327. That provision contained no limitation on the type of evidence that a defendant could offer once it timely filed a notice of removal. Cf. Murphy Bros., 526 U.S. at 351, 119 S.Ct. at 1327 (stating that Congress enacted § 1446(b) to “give adequate time [for removal] and operate uniformly throughout the Federal jurisdiction.” (quotation marks omitted)); 14C Wright et ah, Federal Practice and Procedure § 3731, at 482-85 (“The goal is early resolution of the court system in which the case will be heard.”). Congress amended § 1446(b) in 1949, but the changes did not alter the traditional rule allowing defendants to offer their own evidence in support of removals at the commencement of the case. The 1949 amendments made two changes. First, and unrelated to this case, Congress ensured that the defendant would have access to the complaint before commencement of the removal period. See Murphy Bros., 526 U.S. at 351-52, 119 S.Ct. at 1327. Second, Congress was concerned that the removal statute did not incorporate the judicial rule “permitting and requiring the defendant to file a petition for removal as soon as the action assumes the shape of a removable case in the court in which it was brought.” Powers v. Chesapeake & Ohio Ry. Co., 169 U.S. 92, 101, 18 S.Ct. 264, 267, 42 L.Ed. 673 (1898). Congress therefore added the second paragraph to § 1446(b), which has remained essentially the same to this day. See notes following 28 U.S.C.A § 1446 (Commentary on 1949 revision) (“The second paragraph of the amendment to subsection (b) is intended to make clear that the right of removal may be exercised at a later stage of the case if the initial pleading does not state a removable case but its removability is subsequently disclosed. This is declaratory of the existing rule laid down by the decisions.” (citing Powers, 169 U.S. at 101, 18 S.Ct. at 267)). We agree with the Fifth Circuit that “[i]t is wholly evident that the purpose of the second paragraph is to extend the time for filing notice of removal under the stated circumstance, and not to in any event shorten it to less than it would be under the first paragraph.” Badon, 224 F.3d at 390. Although the second paragraph of § 1446(b) offers an additional avenue for removal, that road is not an easy one for defendants to travel. As the Powers Court said, the traditional understanding was that removal was both permitted and required “as soon as the action assumes the shape of a removable case.” Powers, 169 U.S. at 101, 18 S.Ct. at 267. Otherwise a defendant could wait and see how it fared in the state court proceedings before deciding whether to remove. The second paragraph of § 1446(b) continues the requirement of promptness. The renewed removal window opens, but only for thirty days, when the defendant receives a document “from which it may first be ascertained that the case is one which is or has become removable.” 28 U.S.C. § 1446(b) (second paragraph). That language — especially the word “ascertained” — is different from the language of the first paragraph of § 1446(b). The Fifth Circuit has explained the difference: “Setting forth,” the key language of the first paragraph, encompasses a broader range of information that can trigger a time limit based on notice than would “ascertained,” the pivotal term in the second paragraph. To “set forth” means to “publish” or “to give an account or statement of.” “Ascertain” means “to make certain, exact, or precise” or “to find out or learn with certainty.” The latter, in contrast to the former, seems to require a greater level of certainty or that the facts supporting removability be stated unequivocally. Bosky v. Kroger Tex., LP, 288 F.3d 208, 211 (5th Cir.2002) (footnotes omitted). C. The Lowery Decision As we have already pointed out, Lowery is a second paragraph case. See supra Part III.A. Its “receipt from the plaintiff’ rule is based on the second paragraph of § 1446(b), and that rule applies if “the case stated by the initial pleading is not removable” but the case “has become removable” due to changed circumstances. See 28 U.S.C. § 1446(b) (second paragraph) (emphasis added). Under the second paragraph of § 1446(b), the defendant’s receipt of a document indicating that the case “has become removable” opens a new 30-day window for removal. Id. (referring to “other paper from which it may first be ascertained that the case is one which is or has become removable”). The traditional rule is that only a voluntary act by the plaintiff may convert a non-removable case into a removable one. See Insinga v. LaBella, 845 F.2d 249, 252 (11th Cir.1988) (explaining the judicially created “voluntary-involuntary” rule that applies in diversity cases); see also Weems v. Louis Dreyfus Corp., 380 F.2d 545, 547 (5th Cir.1967). Thus, a defendant cannot show that a previously non-removable case “has become removable” as a result of a document created by the defendant. See 28 U.S.C. § 1446(b) (second paragraph). Our predecessor court explained in Gaitor v. Peninsular & Occidental Steamship Co., 287 F.2d 252 (5th Cir.1961), that an initially non-removable case “cannot be converted into a removable one by evidence of the defendant or by an order of the court.” Id. at 254 (quotation marks and citation omitted) (emphasis added). That “receipt from the plaintiff’ rule plainly does not limit the type of evidence a defendant may use to establish that the plaintiffs complaint already is removable — without any “conversion.” See also Addo v. Globe Life & Accident Ins. Co., 230 F.3d 759, 762 (5th Cir.2000) (“[The] ‘other paper’ must result from the voluntary act of a plaintiff which gives the defendant notice of the changed circumstances which now support federal jurisdiction.”); S.W.S. Erectors, Inc. v. Infax, Inc., 72 F.3d 489, 494 (5th Cir.1996) (holding that an affidavit executed by the defendant’s attorney did not commence the renewed removal period, under the second paragraph of § 1446(b), because the affidavit did not arise from a voluntary act by the plaintiff). In other words, Lowery’s “receipt from the plaintiff’ rule has no application to eases, like this one, which are removed under the first paragraph of § 1446(b). 1. The Dicta About First Paragraph Removal Cases There are statements in the Lowery opinion that are at least arguably inconsistent with our conclusions in this case, but those statements are dicta. This is crucial because, “[w]hatever their opinions say, judicial decisions cannot make law beyond the facts of the cases in which those decisions are announced.” Watts v. BellSouth Telecomms., Inc., 316 F.3d 1203, 1207 (11th Cir.2003); accord Edwards v. Prime, Inc., 602 F.3d 1276, 1298 (11th Cir.2010) (“We have pointed out many times that regardless of what a court says in its opinion, the decision can hold nothing beyond the facts of that case.”); United States v. Aguillard, 217 F.3d 1319, 1321 (11th Cir.2000) (“The holdings of a prior decision can reach only as far as the facts and circumstances presented to the Court in the case which produced that decision.” (quotation marks omitted)). Statements in an opinion that are not “fitted to the facts,” Fanin v. U.S. Dep’t of Veterans Affairs, 572 F.3d 868, 873 (11th Cir.2009), or that extend “further than the facts of that case,” Nguyen v. United States, 556 F.3d 1244, 1260 (11th Cir.2009), or that are “not necessary to the decision of an appeal given the facts and circumstances of the case,” Aron v. United States, 291 F.3d 708, 716 (11th Cir.2002) (Carnes, J., concurring) (quotation marks and citation omitted), are dicta. We are not required to follow dicta in our own prior decisions. McNely v. Ocala Star-Banner Corp., 99 F.3d 1068, 1077 (11th Cir.1996). Nor for that matter is anyone else. Edwards, 602 F.3d at 1298 (“[D]icta is not binding on anyone for any purpose.”). When we encounter dicta about a question in an earlier opinion, we are always “free to give that question fresh consideration.” Id. at 1298 (internal quotation marks omitted). There arfe two statements in the Lowery opinion with which we disagree and that are at least arguably inconsistent with the result we reach in this case. The first one is that the “receipt from the plaintiff’ rule is not limited to removals made under the second paragraph of § 1446(b) but applies to first paragraph removals as well. See Lowery, 483 F.3d at 1213 n. 63 (“Under either paragraph, the documents received by the defendant must contain an unambiguous statement that clearly establishes federal jurisdiction.”). That part of the Lowery opinion is not “fitted to the facts,” Fanin, 572 F.3d at 873, it does extend “further than the facts of that case,” Nguyen, 556 F.3d at 1260, and it is “not necessary to the decision,” Aron, 291 F.3d at 716. Because Lowery was not a first paragraph removal case, anything the opinion says about the law applicable to cases removed under the first paragraph of § 1446(b) is dicta, and we are “free to give that question fresh consideration.” Edwards, 602 F.3d at 1298 (quotation marks omitted). Dicta can, of course, have persuasive value. See New Port Largo, Inc. v. Monroe County, 985 F.2d 1488, 1500 n. 7 (11th Cir.1993). (Edmondson, J., concurring) (“We are not necessarily bound by the words of [earlier panel] opinions, although we may be persuaded by them even if not bound.”). We are not, however, persuaded by the dicta in Lowery about first paragraph removals. For one thing, much of the Lowery opinion’s reasoning about this matter is pegged to language in the second paragraph of § 1446(b) that is not in the first one. That second paragraph language requires that removal come within thirty days “after receipt by the defendant ... of a copy of an amended pleading, motion, order or other paper from which it may first be ascertained that the case is one which is or has become removable.” 28 U.S.C. § 1446(b). The Lowery opinion relies on that language to support its conclusion that removal requires that the defendant has received— not generated or compiled — a document containing an “an unambiguous statement that clearly establishes federal jurisdiction” and that the defendant has received it from the plaintiff or the court. See Lowery, 483 F.3d at 1213 n. 63. Interpreting the language from the second paragraph of § 1446(b) in a case where the removal was under that paragraph is one thing. Implicitly reading that language into the first paragraph of that subsection, where it does not exist, is another thing entirely. The entire process of statutory interpretation is premised on the principle that statutory words have meaning. When Congress includes language in one statutory provision but not in another related provision that, too, has meaning. See Dean v. United States, — U.S. -, 129 S.Ct. 1849, 1854, 173 L.Ed.2d 785 (2009) (“Where Congress includes particular language in one section of a statute but omits it in another section of the same Act, it is generally presumed that Congress acts intentionally and purposely in the disparate inclusion or exclusion.” (quotation marks omitted)); Freemanville Water Sys., Inc. v. Poarch Band of Creek Indians, P.C.I., 563 F.3d 1205, 1209 (11th Cir.2009) (“[W]hen Congress uses different language in similar sections, it intends different meanings.” (quotation marks omitted)). We are not persuaded to cut and paste language from one part of § 1446(b) into another part. The Lowery opinion also misreads the two decisions it cites for its statement that, “[u]nder either paragraph, the documents received by the defendant must contain an unambiguous statement that clearly establishes federal jurisdiction.” 483 F.3d at 1213 n. 63 (citing Bosky, 288 F.3d at 211; Huffman v. Saul Holdings, LP, 194 F.3d 1072, 1078 (10th Cir.1999)). The Lowery opinion apparently views the Bosky and Huffman cases as involving first paragraph removals, but that view is mistaken. Both of those decisions actually addressed challenges to the timeliness of removals made under the second paragraph of § 1446(b). See Bosky, 288 F.3d at 211-12 (contrasting the first and second paragraphs of § 1446(b)); Huffman, 194 F.3d at 1077 (noting that the second paragraph of § 1446(b) was in play “[b]eeause the initial pleading did not permit [the defendant] to discern the amount in controversy”). That is not all. In Bosky the Fifth Circuit actually stated that its requirement of an “unequivocally clear and certain” basis for removal is unique to the second paragraph of § 1446(b). See Bosky, 288 F.3d at 211 (holding that “the information supporting removal in a copy of an amended pleading, motion, order or other paper must be ‘unequivocally clear and certain’ to start the time limit running for a notice of removal under the second paragraph of section 1446(b).” (emphasis added)). The Bosky decision was explicitly based on the difference between the first and second paragraphs of § 1446(b). See id. at 211-12. 2. The Dicta About Unliquidated Damages Removal Cases The second statement in the Lowery opinion with which we disagree and that is at least arguably inconsistent with the result we reach here is the suggestion that its “receipt from the plaintiff’ rule would apply to any case in which the complaint seeks unliquidated damages. See 483 F.3d at 1214 n. 66. In a footnote, the opinion states that “[wjhen a plaintiff seeks unliquidated damages and does not make a specific demand, ... the factual information establishing the jurisdictional amount must come from the plaintiff.” Id. In support of that assertion, the opinion quotes a snippet from McNutt v. General Motors Acceptance Corp. of Indiana, 298 U.S. 178, 182, 56 S.Ct. 780, 782, 80 L.Ed. 1135 (1936): “Where the law gives no rule [regarding damages], the demand of the plaintiff must furnish one.” Lowery, 483 F.3d at 1214 n. 66. The Lowery opinion’s broad statement about all complaints seeking unliquidated damages is dicta because it is unnecessary to the decision in that case. The statement is not based on or otherwise tied to the language of § 1446(b) but is broader than that. When the Lowery opinion actually concludes that the evidence Alabama Power referred to in support of removal would not do, however, the reason given is not that there was a claim for unliquidated damages. Instead, the opinion states that “the evidence is not of the sort contemplated by § 1446(b)” and characterizes its reasoning as “[tjracking § 1446(b).” Id. at 1221 (emphasis added). That part of the opinion does not mention “unliquidated damages” or the general principle of federal jurisdiction that it says is derived from McNutt. See id. Because it relied only on the more narrow, statutory basis for its result, the Loioery opinion’s musings on unliquidated damages are unnecessary to its decision. They are dicta. See supra Part III.C.l. We are not persuaded by this dicta and believe it is mistaken. The only support offered for it is the snippet from McNutt— that “[w]here the law gives no rule [regarding damages], the demand of the plaintiff must furnish one.” Lowery, 483 F.3d at 1214 n. 66 (quoting McNutt, 298 U.S. at 182, 56 S.Ct. at 782). That snippet, however, was written in the context of a plaintiffs assertion of federal jurisdiction. See McNutt, 298 U.S. at 182-83, 56 S.Ct. at 782; see also Lowery, 483 F.3d at 1210 (recognizing, in another part of the opinion, that “[t]he action in McNutt did not arise from the removal context, but was brought originally in federal court”). Of course the plaintiff, who owns the complaint, must “furnish” — properly allege— the jurisdictional facts when bringing a case in federal court. But that tells us little, if anything, about removal cases like this one in which the defendant is asserting that federal jurisdiction exists. In any event, McNutt does not support the Lowery opinion’s statement that jurisdictional facts must come from the plaintiff in cases seeking unliquidated damages. Instead, what the Supreme Court instructed us in McNutt is that jurisdictional facts may come from whichever party asserts federal jurisdiction: The prerequisites to the exercise of jurisdiction ... must be met by the party who seeks the exercise of jurisdiction in his favor. He must allege in his pleading the facts essential to show jurisdiction. If he fails to make the necessary allegations he has no standing. If he does make them, an inquiry into the existence of jurisdiction is obviously for the purpose of determining whether the facts support his allegations. In the nature of things, the authorized inquiry is primarily directed to the one who claims that the power of the court should be exerted in his behalf. ... If his allegations of jurisdictional facts are challenged by his adversary in any appropriate manner, he must support them by competent proof. And where they are not so challenged the court may still insist that the jurisdictional facts be established or the case be dismissed, and for that purpose the court may demand that the party alleging jurisdiction justify his allegations by a preponderance of evidence. McNutt, 298 U.S. at 189, 56 S.Ct. at 785 (emphasis added). Those statements of the Supreme Court run directly contrary to the dicta in the Lowery opinion that in every unliquidated damages case the evidence in support of jurisdiction must come from the plaintiff — a party not seeking to have the power of the federal court exerted on his behalf. Missing from the Supreme Court’s explanation in McNutt is any restriction on the source of the evidence used to establish federal jurisdiction, or even the hint of one. The McNutt opinion is the first to lay down the “preponderance of the evidence” standard for removal cases. See Lowery, 483 F.3d at 1209. If the Supreme Court had meant to restrict the source of evidence that could be used to establish jurisdiction, it easily could have done so, but it did not. We are not inclined to write into the key part of the McNutt decision language that the Supreme Court did not put there. Besides, as one court has observed, “[i]t would be a strange result” if the law “forc[ed] a removing defendant to prove jurisdiction by a preponderance of the evidence, even as it categorically foreclosed defendants from being able to present [their own] objective evidence specific to the plaintiffs claims to demonstrate the amount in controversy.” Spottswood v. Stewart Title Guar. Co., No. 10-0109, 2010 WL 1539993, at *3 (S.D.Ala. April 16, 2010). Strange indeed. We are not aware of any other appellate court that has interpreted McNutt in the way that the Lowery opinion does. As far as we can tell, it has never been the jurisdictional rule that a defendant may remove a diversity case seeking unliquidated damages only when the plaintiff is the source of facts or evidence on the value of the case. See W.E. Shipley, Annotation, Criteria of jurisdictional amount in tori action for unliquidated damages in federal couri, 47 A.L.R.2d 651 (1956) (“Where the complaint does not disclose the amount or value of the matter in controversy, it has been held, in removal proceedings, that reference may be made to the defendant’s petition for removal in order to determine whether the jurisdictional amount is involved.”). The Supreme Court long ago settled that the notice of removal “performs the office of [a] pleading,” Little York Gold Washing & Water Co. v. Keyes, 96 U.S. 199, 202, 6 Otto 199, 24 L.Ed. 656 (1877), that it “becomes a part of the record,” and that “[i]t should state facts, which, taken in connection with such as already appear, entitle [the petitioner] to the transfer,” Phoenix Ins. Co. v. Pechner, 95 U.S. 183, 185-86, 24 L.Ed. 427 (1877). Those Supreme Court decisions are inconsistent with the Lowery opinion’s assertion that “the demand of the plaintiff’ must provide the source of facts on the value of unliquidated claims even where the defendant is the party asserting federal jurisdiction. See also Davenport v. Procter & Gamble Mfg. Co., 241 F.2d 511, 514 (2d Cir.1957) (“Removability is determined by the allegations of the complaint if it sets up the amount i